Idea: If they are not in /v they can have their nick be whatever.
If they are in /v their nicks must match their real usernames.

 

If they're in /v the can't be PM'd regardless which defeats the point of the suggestion.

 

Gives a "thanks for pointing that out" rating

 

Okay. As a person on staff who does not have any nick features I feel like I should speak my opinion on this matter.

In all the examples you've given there have been other staff members online who have nicks similar to their names, or no nicks at all. Now, I don't know about you guys, but I know personally, if I'm alone on the server with only one other staff member, I've never seen the other person have a nick different from their username.

As long as there's two staff on that aren't nicked something like 'fish' then I don't see an issue with staff being allowed to nick themselves something that isn't their full name. It's likely that if a user can't pm someone, they'll try to pm someone else before totally giving up.

I like kuke's suggestion though, as a good middle ground. If someone (cough cough jamie cough) made a way for users to pm those in nick through their nick (/pm fish) I think that most people would be generally happy.

Anyways, that's just my two cents on this issue. Take it or leave it as you will.

 

Then they should not be able to clog up the chats or be inappropriate and then they can't be ignored. Or... fix ignore to respond to the "vanished" nickname maybe?

 

Well said, this was the point I tried to make earlier in the thread that every staff member should be allowed some "down time" so that they can just play.
Imagine all the people.... :p

 

You make it sound like changing a nickname changes the person, it's just a few colorful letters of your name, you can still be you with a nickname based around your in game name, plus really you can play and still be a staff member without changing your nickname, its just out of the convenience of the new players of the server. I still managed to play and be me just fine while doing staff duties and not having Nickname.
Also as to pming a nick, what if a player decided to use the same exact nickname as a staff member, would staff take priority?

 

This would not be an issue, since two people can't have the same nickname at the same time

 

Is different color codes/italics/underlined taken into consideration to that too?

 

How in the world is that abuse of powers. Nickname is a donation feature, it's not a staff perk.

 

I've said it before, calling it greedy and abuse to have a nickname they paid for is absolutely ridiculous. I get what you're suggesting, but these restrictions are not the way to go about solving the problem. The problem being /pm not working with nicknames. What you're doing now is counterproductive. Pissing people off is not how you get them to change their ways. Don't be daft.

@JamieSinn just make herochat's /pm hook into Essentials nicknames. It's a small change with almost no downsides and a major upside. Thanks.

 

personally i think this is being blown way out of proportion. under most circumstances if a player is new to the server or minecraft in general they might not even know about /list nevermind /rn. The first place they are going to ask questions, is in chat.

I think yes, the staff member who responds to them and their questions should turn off any nicknames. However don't feel it's too much of an issue since everyone who is against it knows about /rn.

Yes. i can see how it would be annoying, but it is no less ''annoying'' than a vanished user using /nick either.

I do believe that if a staff memeber is needed or called upon to resolve an issue of any kind, they should turn off /nickname for the duration of their assistance. But to say we simply can not change it ever, period, end of story, is a little much.

We like to have fun too ya know :p


p.s. Staff does not use /nick (if we have it) maliciously, we use it to have a little fun once in a while.

 

Personally I don't think it's "unnecessarily difficult and frustrating" if you can /realname and easily find who the person is. Is it annoying? Sure. Is it unnecessary? Well... people have to learn commands to play one way or the other, don't they? ECC uses tons of commands, several of which are unique. However even if someone needn't /realname to find a staff member, they'll need it for someone.

Regardless, let's move here to a different point here, which is really the principle here and why you're not seeing agreement from staff here. You're treating it as a capital offense for staff to have a little fun once in a while. I agree that staff should be clearly identifiable while they're doing their job most of the time, and I'd agree that staff shouldn't use a nick that doesn't directly correlate to their name most of the time. However if a staff member wants to briefly change their name to something silly for some reason, there's no harm in that, and attacking people for it is ludicrous.

That's simply ridiculous.

 

Billy babe. If I spend 100 dollars to put pretty colors and change my name to what I want and I still am able to help any user, then I really don't see any problem with that. Now if you'd like me to change my name because using /rn is too difficult it seems, please send me 100 dollars and I'll be happy to do it Hun. ;) But in a serious sense, if Kuke says it's easy to just make nicknames part of our pm command, than that seems like a perfect solution. I'd whole heartedly support this addition.

Didn't know nickname was a staff feature. Interesting.

 

Gotta go with -1

 

Of course I agree with this since it is exactly what I was trying to get across - that staff are players as well and should have the ability to just play and have fun (and earn some money) like everyone else (as long as it does not interfere with their staff requirements).
I am surprised Billy that you are taking such a hard stance on this and not even believing that there can be no compromise. This is unfair and I call "non-staff" abuse for trying to enforce it.

 

Yes you can use /rn - unless the mod is in /v.

I find it really stupid that you can't /rn someone if they are vanished.

 

>/rn shows vanished users
>types /rn *
>sees all vanished users online

Doesn't sound like a good idea.