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  1. kukelekuuk C͕̹̲̽ͪ͐ͩ̔L̜̦̝͈ͦ̿̾̿ḘA̻̗̤̳̐ͭ̆̿̃̑ͭN̊̓͑̇ͯ
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    Give everyone permissions to every SG kit, but restrict it to once every 8 (or more) hours.

    I get that kits are unlikely to get removed or nerfed, so doing at least this will give builders a shot at winning a couple of times a day. It's not perfect, but it's something, a step forward.
    Think of it as freemium. You get it for free, but it's very limited, so you'll want to buy it if you like it. It gives people both an opportunity to play SG on the same level as the kitters, and an opportunity to understand which kits they like and maybe even would purchase.

    EDIT: no-kit matches reset cooldown timers. But it's trivial to not have the cooldowns of free kits reset.

    EDIT may 2016: With the EULA happening it might be better to have it be every 2-4 hours instead. More incentive to play SG this way.
     
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    #1 kukelekuuk, Jul 1, 2015
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    So you can use one kit total every eight hours, or each kit one time with an eight hour delay on each?
     
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    8 hour delay on each.
     
    #3 kukelekuuk, Jul 1, 2015

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    +1, but maybe delay the timer a little bit more.
     
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    So what would happen to Plus kits, and Plus Plus kits then? Does the 8 hours get cut down?
     
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    Why do you vote down on the suggestion? I personally like it.
     
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    Because it helps nonkitters.
     
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    I say +1, as they do allowpeople without kits to use kits to even out, but prevent from using kits often. You guys saying -1s realize there's an 8 hour cooldown for the kit use if you don't buy it. That means the no-kitter can play with kits only 3 times a day at maximum, whereas some of the kitters can play marathons of sg with theirs.
     
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    I think it should be 24 hour cool down since there are like 10 kits peole can get for free....
     
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    Also I can see this being a problem with boss battles as everyone would have buffer and kitters would have no advantage
     
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    Why don't we give out the cheaper, waeker kits then?
     
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    That's not necessarily with a bad thing actually. Gives everyone a fair chance.

    I'm +1 on this suggestion. Not only does it allow new users to access kits to compete, it can allow for people like myself who want to test kit combinations before I buy them.

    But, one question (and I think I know the answer, just want to check): would the 8 hour cooldown be changed to 30 minutes upon purchase of the kit? i.e. Buffer has an 8 hour cooldown, I buy it, the cooldown shrinks to 30 minutes.
     
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    Exactly a fair chance during a boss battle isn't really fair for kitters, this is why we have the chance of a no kit game. However if there is a way to disable sg kits with 8-24hour cool down during a boss battle I guess it's ok.
     
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    Yeah, purchasing for real would lower the cooldown to 30 minutes. It's like a trial kit. You get the real advantages when you buy the kit.
     
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    Assuming people who participate in boss battles don't already have the kits on cooldown. Besides, does it really matter? It's a server event, events are generally fair, aren't they? That's basically saying builders aren't allowed to win giftcards or prizes because they haven't invested in the server yet. Giving them this will actually give them the ability to have some fun.
     
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    #18 kukelekuuk, Jul 2, 2015
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    -1 like matrix said boss fights would be just crazy.... Half the people would be with spy bfr Miq..... Yeah RIP boss battles....
     
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    Half the people already have spy, buffer, and miq. This just gives the chance for those who don't (if they haven't already used their trial kits).
    (It's also worth noting there's a definite strategy to use with some kits and once every 24 hours will make it a lot harder to learn that).
     
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