Accepted Free "extra long cooldown" SG kits.

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  1. TheN00BISHPanda

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    This is cool +1
     
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    Oh, my god, yes! Perfect for balancing kits, speeding up would be the only upgrade. +1000!!!
     
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    I would personally like to see this suggestion implemented. New users who join because they heard we have Survival Games often complain or think that other, more invested users are "hacking" because they are using kits. This is like a demo of a game as kuke states. They use their kits and they have fun, they get a taste of what it's like. They will grow impatient as to waiting for the cool down and will finally give in. They will end up buying a kit to have the cool down lower. This gives everyone a fair chance and could possibly increase monthly donations and/or player influx.
     
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    The problem which I thought of during math class is that they can use bfr, but also all these other kits in sg that can be used at any time. For instance

    Sg 4: bfr spy cc
    Sg 1: Pf Grn Miq
    Sg 2: Ea Ep Vsg

    As you can see, the kits can be used by choice in more than 1 Sg before cool down. Here's what I think:

    Free use of kit cc, Pf and spy once a day, and occasional ads once every 3 minutes to non donators saying:

    "Want more awesome kits? Get str, armour and invisibility with only a 30 minute cool down at www.ecocitycraft.com/shop!"

    Just my 0.02.
     
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    I couldn't have said it any better. Great idea.
     
  7. kukelekuuk

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    Well, the intention is to have ALL kits available. Because when you don't you ruin the point of the suggestion. The point is to level the playing field for builders. Preventing them from using most kits does not achieve that. (In fact, it barely changes anything at all)

    I'm aware that you can use more kits in multiple SGs. But how many SG games can you play in 8 hours? (or 12). Is it bad that people can use multiple sets of kits in 3-4 matches? Because those 3-4 matches all take ~5 minutes, so at most they'll have ~20 minutes where they can use kits, and then 7(or 11) hours and 40 minutes where they can't use any.
     
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    Sounds fantastic in theory, but lets look at the real picture.
    1. Many people (or builders) join solely for sg. They do not know about these "free kits". They get destroyed and leave anyway.
    2. Even if they can use the kits, it takes time to develop strategy. A point nicit had. They get destroyed and leave anyway.
    3. It would be cool to add, but I still wish to see a kit refund if it is, especially since I only play sg like 3 times a day anyway.
    4. @3H7_TURT_F3_Gg_0 You forgot a dollar sign.
    Again, just my $0.02. Feel free to debate
     
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    wait so ragin why would you want a refund if the builders wont know how to use it?
     
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    1, a sign at the sg join location explaining kits can alleviate this.
    2, this is the case with any SG people play. Here or anywhere else. It's irrelevant to the suggestion.
    3, Where is the threshold? Who would we refund and who wouldn't we refund? Because it's not feasible to give everyone a refund or credit. It would be more realistic to provide no refund at all. (realistic as in realistically possible)
     
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    1. Good idea. Where would this sign be place?
    2. There is a difference between regular hunger game strats and kits strats. It's pretty relevant.
    3. Seems farfetched, but people with kits who don't use them all that often (or maybe don't have many kits, I have 2), such as myself, would be hurt by this suggestion. People who haven't worked at all get the same benefit I do. It's good, but it could be great.
     
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    I do believe that this entire concept is cantered around making sg more balanced, so you being "hurt" by the idea is contradicting the entire deal. This whole thing is to do exactly that, take the over-poweredness of kits and turn it down 3 notches
     
  13. kukelekuuk

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    1, where people read it. right in front of the /sg join location, probably.
    2, Survival Games with kits is not a new or foreign concept. The only thing that might be disruptive is not knowing people can be invisible/buffed. But this is a problem that exists to begin with. My suggestion's aim is to make it less of a problem. It won't fix the problem altogether. It's about as good as it realistically gets without making kits worthless. A compromise between both sides of the kits argument.
    3, generally people buy kits to use them, not to neglect them. I don't believe a refund is necessary because you're not using the.. I'll call it "full potential".. of the kits. I don't think it's realistic to refund people based on how much they actually use the kits.
     
    #93 kukelekuuk, Sep 18, 2015
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    +1 yes other then removing kits its the only other way to improve sg
     
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    People with kits don't use them? ok. Just prove that with every single sg where people have invisibility with Sharp III swords and say 'ez' everytime they kill you.

    Difference between regular strats and kit strats: You don't need strategy when you have kits.

    *Just my input*
     
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    Who's account are you? I've never found you on seen.
     
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    Now when you say 'support' the server', giving people kits to use once every 8 hours would support the server. If you ever played Candy Crush you would know this. If you want an explanation of how this at all relates to Candy Crush, then go right ahead and ask.

    When you say 'support the server', you can be making a cover-up excuse of how you don't want a fair fight once or twice a day that requires skill. I think you have part of stoler's soul but with a beautiful pink curtain for skin to cover all that voshizzle up. You don't want players to have kits for free with ridiculous cooldowns; you want to be able to farm from them and having to lose to them once a day because they're better than you just decreases the rate that you'll win more often. Oh, how much does that suck? It's first world problems for you compared to the 'third world problems' of every single new person on the server.

    *Puts on sunglasses* Deal with it.
     
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    You are seriously relating ecc to candy crush? Wtf xD
     
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    This argument is invalid on so many levels....
     
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    ARE YOU STOLER?
     
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