Please explain why.

 

It's because they use kits to make money. Duh. :p

 

We don't have to explain why. We just don't support this. Ie we don't like it.

Edit* and we said "-1" right after a paragraph on how bad of an idea this is. I'd think you would put two and two together (╯°-°）╯

Wrong, I personally find joy in demolishing an sg team one member at a time due to advantages.

I will add that a lot of people aren't very happy with the 50% chance of a kit free because teams are way op now. Because with a 4v1 not only could they have better weapons but there's a 400% health difference lol. At least with buffer and other kits there's the chance of them messing up and you only have to worry about that solo player in some cases.

But that doesn't matter, as I'm not going to sit here and attempt to sway an opinion that frankly I know I can't sway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

to be fair, the only reason teams are so big right now is because it's a tournament. The situation would be a lot different if it stayed like this outside of the tournament.

 

I disagree. Sure they wouldn't be as big, but they would be much bigger than usual. Just what I believe.

 

But those big teams didn't exist before kits were around. What makes you think there would be big teams now?
I've only rarely seen big teams outside of tournaments, and those teams got destroyed pretty quickly because people would start hunting them. So I don't think it's sustainable to have a big team. (Outside of the tournament, that is)

 

Wrong. Even before the tournament started, my team and 7am's team could 'own' SG for as long as we wanted to. Our teams could win 90% of the games. Sure, people would hunt us but if you keep 3v1ing them they would eventually become discouraged and stop.

 

Wrong? You're talking about a different situation.
Mocho said that 50% chance of no-kit would make teams bigger and make SG all about teams.
I said that if there was a 50% no-kit there wouldn't be big teams, because it wasn't that way before kits were around.
And now you're saying that WITH KITS a team could easily keep teaming.

What I was saying is that without kits (or when there are a lot of players playing) big teams can not survive. Because without kits more people play, when more people play you'll automatically get more people hunting you, forming truces just to kill the team. I've seen it happen, a lot. And it's the reason big teams weren't successful in the long run.
Just because it works for you right now, doesn't mean it works without kits. lol

 

Agreed, supporting an argument is very valuable.
*cough cough* @Kick_Me_1235 @Jacob43365 @MSU_G14 *cough cough*

 

Yeah guys lets make this a flame war!
*flames* *flames* *flames*

Spoiler: Flames

 

It kinda always was/is by nature an argument. Not trying to start a flame war, sorry if it made you feel that way. I know that arguments often descend into flame wars.

 

Point being, people disagree with this, those people don't have to explain why they disagree with it. Just because someone's opinion is opposite of yours it doesn't make them wrong. I didn't want to sit here and explain myself because I know the opinions couldn't be changed yet you guys pushed at it. This is all in theory anyways. I'm done. You know what side I favor as well as kick and a18.

I'll be ignoring this thread now.

 

There are 2 types of minecrafters, the ones who play for the economy or factions or whatever it is, and the ones who play for the pvp and sg. In adding op kit ECC has in turn lost the majority of the players who come on to play sg. Adding non-kit sg arenas will definitely bring in those people who are leaving because of the unfair sg. Plus, they might even decide that they want to step it up a level and get a kit or but fly and teleport, who knows? Really the only fact here is that adding No-kit sg will definitely help the economy.

 

We don't exactly have factions, and those are more related to PvP and SG. That's the only gripe I have with your statement. Other than that, it's a good argument.

 

My reaction to some of these posts...


My reaction to the ones arguing against those posts...


My reaction to this suggestion:

 

-1 would ruin kit sg. Being a kitter I now see the other side of this. I didn't only -1 it because I'm a kitter though :p

Edit: now reading the comments I change to +1 as long as it's really low reward with only 1 arena.

 

@zr2002 the reward for that 1 arena would be the same as the other arena, but it would fill up and start meaning that people would either have to wait or play kit. and keep in mind that no kit games will be fuller and harder so it would take longer then a normal game

 

Even though I own multiple kits +1.

 

I thought we decided on lowering the prize money on the no-kit arena...