[Suggestion] No-Kit SG Arenas

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  1. knears2000

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    Ok, tell me this.

    Would you find it annoying if you join a pretty good server, to then be destroyed by over powerful SG kits? 1 arena isn't going to kill your profits...

    What about the mining nerfs? I was mad at those, yet look at how that benefitted the server?

    Your opportunity cost is your money going down the drain and the server dying, or losing a little value of your money, and stretch it out over time. Which would you rather have?
     
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    Users that have put in the effort have managed. We farmed and mined in order to save for these kits. Why should newer users have it any easier than we did?
     
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    That's a pretty bad argument. As time has gone on the server has done nothing but get harder and harder. Remember 2$ pumpkins? Remember 100$ diamonds? Mswords are now touching around 1 mil a price I hoped they'd never reach. I understand you guys have put forth the efforts for kits but just adding 1 kit free arena won't do anything against that. Doing this suggestion really won't hurt you
     
    #43 greg45865734, Jan 25, 2015
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    It isn't an argument at all. I'm simply asking a question.
     
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  5. knears2000

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    How is it 'easier'. They still have to pay the $500 USD [Mod Edit] to have fun. It's only having them stay. It's not making it any easier.

    You're argument is terrible. It should be easier, and a gradual increase in difficulty in order to have them stay. If you're stating that it should be as difficult as it was for us, then well, let's throw ECC further into the crapper.

    The player count has significantly dropped since July, mainly in part due to Andrew and all that. But, another issue is that new players aren't staying. Why? Because they get killed by kits the second they join. If you cannot allow them to have a fighting chance, then why let them on at all?
     
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    Why do I even bother with intolerable people like you Knears?
    You sir, are impossible.
     
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    I'm not intolerable, I know what's right, and can tell my foot from my [Mod Edit]. You're suggesting that we don't add this because new players will "have it easier". So what if they do. So long as it keeps them here, that's what needs to be done. And you're not ready to accept that from the looks of it.
     
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    Okay, think what you like my friend. :)
     
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    You're yet to bring up a valid argument with evidence supporting your claim. Please do so, if not, kindly leave the thread. Thank you.
     
    #49 knears2000, Jan 25, 2015
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    Well it was a rhetorical question, so no you're not really just asking a question.
     
    #50 greg45865734, Jan 25, 2015
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    Bump
     
    #51 knears2000, Jan 26, 2015
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    I hate this idea people have suggested it many times it probably wont happen (+All the people would join kit free so i wouldn't make any money with my kits i have about $245 in kits)
     
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    God forbid you can't go and kill off all the new players and shoo them away from the server...

    It's this selfish attitude that you and so many other's posses that really pisses me off. If you cannot make $300 more and hour, then it's a no for anything. And that my friend, is pathetic.
     
    #53 knears2000, Jan 26, 2015
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    Look sg isn't always for money brat its for having fun....
     
    #54 Zach_Attack252, Jan 26, 2015
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    Yes some people can make money from sg..
     
    #55 Zach_Attack252, Jan 26, 2015
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    You contradict yourself. If SG is supposedly "fun", then why are we losing so many players to it? And if we want to have a "fun" SG, then there should be not kits, correct? I don't understand why you call me a "brat", given I'm not the one complaining that I can't make as much money...
    Ok, your point is?
     
    #56 knears2000, Jan 26, 2015
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    Ok so you don't want this suggestion because you think it'll cut your profits, that's understandable.
    ... Didn't you just say you hate this suggestion because you think you wouldn't make any more money from your kits?

    1. One single kit free arena isn't going to kill your profits when there's 3-4 kit arenas.
    2. Do you think it's fun to be just be playing a game and you're doing decent then an invisible guy comes up behind you and 1 shots you? If not that's what people without kits have to go through. Not very fun.
    3. As someone who played sg and loved it before kits became a serious problem it was great. It was a lot of fun and I played with a lot of people (including you). Then OP kits like buffer came in and ruined it. Just about every game I would get 1-2 shot without a chance to fight back.
    4. Sg is a dying light. Doing this would be the best realistic option to revive it.
    5. Countless builders leave all the time because of kits. This would solve for a massive amount of them.
    6. If a new arena was added where I wouldn't get 1 shot all the time I would sure as hell play and I'm sure many others who quit sg would too.
     
    #57 greg45865734, Jan 26, 2015
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    Something else I might add:

    The real reason I bought kits was because of me joining a team, and because it became extremely apparent I needed them to compete at a peak level.

    Hence, I believe (and know very well) that you don't need kits, and personally enjoyed SG more as a no-kitter. This is why I agree with the No-Kit Arena suggestion, as I (and many others) would truly enjoy it.
     
    #58 goblizz, Jan 26, 2015
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