In Game Name: NatelevWhat part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for: SkyBlock ServerShort title for your suggestion: Unban macro modWhat are you suggesting: The Skyblock AFK and automation guidelines states the following: Spoiler The following is NOT allowed, no matter whether you are AFK or active: The use of any external programs (i.e. autoclickers, AutoHotKey, macros). My suggestion is to remove this rule, which is effectively a blanket ban on using any external mods or programs such as macro mod, regardless of what they are being used for.Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?: The rules already ban the use external programs for automation, generating items/xp/ecodollars or general exploitation. Keeping this in mind, placing a blanket ban on the use of external programs is overly restrictive, as there are many legitimate reasons to use them. One example is using macro to bind commonly used commands to keys.Other information: This rule is completely unenforceable anyway, as there's no way for staff to tell whether someone is using an external program such as macro mod if they aren't using it for an exploit or for automation. This rule also doesn't exist on main, where external programs are allowed as long as they aren't used for automation or exploitation.Plugin or custom addition: No, this is just a rule change.One suggestion per form: I Understand.
Oh my. I have not ever been able to get macro mod installed and working but I had no idea it wasn't allowed I have always been under the impression it was okay to use. I also could swear that I have seen staff state that an autoclicker was more than okay for gambling.
I was also under the impression that it was okay to use, until an SA mentioned that it wasn't allowed on skyblock. Autoclickers are also very commonly used for the star casino in skyblock. This rule has been neglected by most players and rarely enforced by staff, which is part of why I'd like to see this rule removed.
The afk and automation guidelines only apply to afk and automation. They are not, and are not intended to be, a blanket ban on macromod. Source: I wrote them.
Well, the guidelines state that external programs aren't allowed "no matter whether you are afk or active", and two SA's now have said that macro mod isn't technically allowed to be used at all in skyblock.
On a serious note. I never thought it was illegal unless you used automation within the macro mod. So its allowed as long as you dont abuse it to the point of it being not allowed. So there was no real line draw as such. So if they have decided to just carpet ban macro mod. least there would be some clarity on the issue. As like you said, its pretty tough to tell when someone is abusing macromod.
To clear things up, the rules were originally written in a way that only banned the use of external programs to perform actions while AFK. They were changed around July last year to make it so that being AFK wasn't relevant, and that external programs couldn't be used regardless of whether the player was AFK or not. https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/discussion-rules-update-automation-on-skyblock.177148/ The edits to the rules highlighted by 314 make it clear that there is actually a blanket ban on external programs in skyblock. He specifically added a disclaimed saying that the following is not allowed "no matter whether you are AFK or active", and the third line removes the disclaimer saying that external programs are banned "to perform actions while afk". The third line only says that "the use of any external programs" is not allowed now.
I don't remember why the rule was changed to blanket ban all third-party modifications. I've changed it now to just indicate that you shouldn't be doing things while AFK. Hacked clients and the like are still disallowed in the Skyblock Rules as well: https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/wiki/skyblock-server-rules/ New Automation Rules: Code: [h3]AFK[/h3] Going AFK on Skyblock is perfectly allowed. However, while you are AFK, you should generally not be performing any activities. The following NOT allowed while you or any account you control is AFK. The use of any third-party modifications to the client (i.e. MacroMod, Autofish, hacked clients, etc.) to generate items, XP, or EcoDollars. The use of any method to hold down or press a button (i.e. placing a weight, e.g. to hold down MOUSE1 and farming Cobblestone etc) Oh, and uh accepted.
