You are correct AFK time is not profitable time. My idea was just for myself since I do not actually like to farm but I do like to "rent" out my farm. If a renter strips the farm after an hour of farming 4 chunks it would be nice to be able to afk for a few minutes touching all 4 chunks so that it's ready for my next renter and then I can go back to mining.
I have also found that people are more likely to rent my 48x48x7 than they were to rent my original 32x32x20. The 4 chunk farm had higher growth rates and more pumpkins overall, but when people come and looked at it they seem to be more inclined to rent when there are more pumpkins per floor, not more floors. Even if its under half as tall, has less pumpkins overall, and harder to grow since it covers 6 chunks. I could have probably found even more renters with a 1 story 200x200 since everyone seems fascinated with them.
It is this lack of knowledge and perception that leads people to think something is better when it really is not, which is why I am grateful you are making this thread. Coming from a mod will hopefully seem more legit than from a normal player (again that whole perception deal where people think what a mod says is more valid than what others say, lol)
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RyanJF1 said:Im renting out a 20x40 pumpkin farm that goes all the way up to bedrock. Many people want to pay so much money for access to a 200x200 pumpkin farm. Truth is, after you start to farm them, you are still close enough to let them to grow. It is almost "instant". you will see for yourself once you build one. I consider it a better investment than a 200x200.Click to expand...
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Instead of giant 200x200 you make smaller farms with multiple floors, sky limit was changed to 255, few people use that to their advantage. With multiple floors, there is no down time/afk time as the floors will fill in by the time you are back to them if you have enough floors.
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xAvezzezze BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️
Is converting a large pumpkin farm to melons worth it?
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RockDassie BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️
I've just put in my town app and the first construction project will be a heavily stacked 100x16 reed farm (I have Fly, and will probably expand out to 200x16). I tried out a small one today and although both reeds and pumpkins insta-break (although for pumpkins, at a much higher price tag!), the $0.20 price difference is nothing compared to the benefits:
-No tool use: this not only saves money directly (no expensive silk touch / Eff5, no repairs) but also means you never, ever, ever have to stop. Ever.
-I can move at 3x speed and only miss 5-10%, or 2.5x speed and miss nothing. Pumpkins get way too laggy above 2x.
-No lag. With pumpkins you get random blocks which lag back into existence directly in front of you, stopping your forward momentum. If you chop these blocks, they create lag spots that cost even more time to get around.
-No accidentally chopping dirt/plants when blocks respawn and push you off course.
-Much more space efficient: a pumpkin farm is only 40% pumpkins, while sugar cane farming can get you anywhere from 66-80% sugar cane per farm.
That said, sugar cane is slow. It takes each stage on average 5 minutes and 20 seconds to grow, so in order for it to regrow completely you need to spend about 11 minutes in the chunk. At speed 2.5x it only takes a couple seconds to clear a chunk. Assuming a default farm configuration (cane-water-cane-cane-water-cane) that's only a total of about 20 seconds in-chunk per harvest. So, theoretically speaking, you'd need 32 layers before your top layer would be fully regrown upon completion of the bottom.
Of course I'm not sure how sugar cane growth and chunk loading really work on a detailed level, but the numbers seem to suggest a Very. Large. Farm.
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RockDassie BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️artic185 said:Does it make a different if it is in 1 chunck or in the middle of 2 chunksClick to expand...
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You can do it yourself like tkick said in an earlier post.
Stand still on 1 block, hit F3, divide x and z (leave off the .xxxxxxxxx stuff) by 16. If it's a whole number your on the border of a chunk if not, move forward and repeat depending on if x or z is changing. Once you have X or Z dialed in to a whole number after dividing, then move left/right until you find the other. Once both divide to whole numbers you are now at the corner of a chunk.
From there you can count 16 blocks in one direction to find the 2nd corner, then turn and count 16 blocks to find 3rd corner and then turn and head to the 4th by again counting 16 blocks. Check the math at each one and if all 4 corner blocks are whole numbers when dividing x and z by 16 you will have your exact square chunk.
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A 32x16 pumpkin farm would be useless. The time it takes to switch between lanes makes it almost impossible to speed farm. For every 5 seconds you take to farm 32 blocks, you need to spend 3 seconds to switch t the next lane. I would rather AFK for 2 hours and have 2 hours of consistent farming.
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I have just about finished all 3 of my example farms. They have all been started but are not all ready for display. They are out the "west portal" of spawn or you can use /warp west if you have the command. In the town Mariana.
PM me in game to see them. I would love to help everyone but I'm hoping that people can help each other too. I'm often busy and interrupted while building/farming. I already helped start about 5 farms. Please feel free to help each other! It's great to pass on knowledge! -
RockDassie BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️dpatt711 said:A 32x16 pumpkin farm would be useless. The time it takes to switch between lanes makes it almost impossible to speed farm. For every 5 seconds you take to farm 32 blocks, you need to spend 3 seconds to switch t the next lane. I would rather AFK for 2 hours and have 2 hours of consistent farming.Click to expand...
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dpatt711 said:A 32x16 pumpkin farm would be useless. The time it takes to switch between lanes makes it almost impossible to speed farm. For every 5 seconds you take to farm 32 blocks, you need to spend 3 seconds to switch t the next lane. I would rather AFK for 2 hours and have 2 hours of consistent farming.Click to expand...
You could of course do a 16x200 if you really wanted to. And as long as it's all in the same chunks then you'd be growing it much faster than a 200x200 as you go up the floors.
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tkick said:dpatt711 said:A 32x16 pumpkin farm would be useless. The time it takes to switch between lanes makes it almost impossible to speed farm. For every 5 seconds you take to farm 32 blocks, you need to spend 3 seconds to switch t the next lane. I would rather AFK for 2 hours and have 2 hours of consistent farming.Click to expand...
You could of course do a 16x200 if you really wanted to. And as long as it's all in the same chunks then you'd be growing it much faster than a 200x200 as you go up the floors.
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dpatt711 said:It only takes 3 stories to be able to constantly farm a 200x200 at 90% full. But I agree that a 200x16 is the supreme pumpkin farm design.Click to expand...
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tkick said:dpatt711 said:It only takes 3 stories to be able to constantly farm a 200x200 at 90% full. But I agree that a 200x16 is the supreme pumpkin farm design.Click to expand...Click to expand...
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