I agree with having a competition as I think the community should have input on the design. I just think the competition should of been run better. I hope that you take that as constructive criticism as I am not intending to offend.

 

I agree.

But my biggest concern is how much lag is prioritized over functionality. No one is going to use a shitty market, regardless of wether or not there's a lot of lag. The original market was the best market for our economy and the server overall, yet it was the most laggy. It could have been modified to make it significantly more laggy, and less laggy than the current one, which would be a huge improvement for the market.

We should take a similar approach this time. Jamie, from the voice of the server, please don't stress lag as the only means of picking a market. I know mine isn't likely to win, I'm just trying to preach what's best for everyone. Pick the market that makes most sense, is easy to navigate, and doesn't cause too much lag. Not the one that's lag free but I might as well go to a town for.

 

9 or more, according to this:

@rockboy2000

 

Rip.

 

Ah okay... though a ~4mill+ prize for the design of the market, when the spawn design was significantly less, is it a bit excessive is it not?

 

@JamieSinn 9 prime shops seems to be a bit over the top, and it absolutely destroys the concept of "1 shop per chunk" in most of our designs. I have no feasible way to incorporate this into my design since I built my entire market around 8 prime shops. Any chance that you will change the number back from 9 to 8?

 

Could not agree with this more. Some of these markets might have some lag. But a mixture of lag and functionality is much better. We don't need a potato market that people run at 200fps much better to run a decent market at 50 frames.

 

I'm in the process of creating a remake of the original market. If you'd like to be added to the forum convo to help, nudge me and I'll add you.

 

That would be awesome, but we *did* move away from that market for a reason. As functional as it was, it was severely laggy (moreso than probably all of the designs, Epicure included) and would be outdated if it were to be implemented. With that being said, I would love to see it! :)

 

If you free up a spot in your inbox, I'll add you to the forum convo.
Any suggestions/feedback is much appreciated :)

 

I'd love to, but I'm cramming for that April 9th ACT at the moment.

 

But that's contradictory to every other build competition we've done.

The spawn build competition had 8-10 winners and prizes if I remember correctly...

 

I have kind of the feeling that we kind of need to take a step back, rethink the rules, the prize, the desired outcome, the time frame, and just about everything about this competition. I've hated the current market for 5 months. If it takes another 5 months to create a market that does not lag too much, makes sense, and is aesthetically pleasing, I will be completely okay and happy with that because I will know that in 5 months we will actually have something great, not something that has a whole new mess of new problems. I don't even think it would take that long actually, I'm just trying to make a point. This is a bohemian cluster**** at this exact moment and I don't feel that bodes well for the finished product.

 

I will be needing some help at some point to check lag testing thing xD
A my computer sucks not matter where i am in minecraft
:)

 

When I try to submit, the google forum asks for an email when entering the "who will get the spawnshop" question.

 

Here goes nothing

Market Design #3
I submitted everything required via the google forum, this is just for screenshots and a detailed explanation for everyone to see.


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This design was a mix between the last two that I did, having the module type layout that kuke thought up, with the main marketplace that I had in my first design. The main marketplace has 9 "First row" shops that all serve as replacements for the current ones, plus the additional one required. They are divided up into 3 sections of 3 shops, each being represented by a color. There are splashes of aesthetics here and there to help make the entire market area not just a blob of boring, while still keeping lag minimal. When you spawn in front of the portal, no shops are rendered to help keep initial lag none. Then the staircase of each section bring you up to the shops. Of course each little section of 3 at all times never renders the other sections. All shops in this entire design are 1/2 of a chunk and aligned with the chunk grids. This design is 50% less laggy than my last, I never went under 40 fps, the average was 50-55 and I get 20 fps at the current market.

Screenshots of the main marketplace:


Next onto the modules themselves. Each module has 3 shops as well, and each section has a dome around the top of it to help make the design more appealing and not just plain modules of shops. Around the domes are numbers to represent the module number you are at, along with a roman numeral on the ceiling which tells you as well. Modules are divided up by color, then number. 4 colors, then numbered 1-6 for 24 modules totaling
81 shops including the main marketplace. Each module contains its own portal which would take it back to the main marketplace, then signs which can take you to any other module within the market.

Screenshots of the modules:

 

Can you post a schematic on my profile? This is really, really nice and I would love to lag test it on my own if possible.

 

What is the progress on this?