I will consider it, however I think the main issue is that we aren't able to constantly monitor the shout box. If we catch people talking about their bans we already take that type of action. The issue is when we are on we are in game handling that stuff. I know sometimes I get a PM "Hey check the shout box" from a player and I will do so immediately. I think if players started notifying staff instead of arguing with the player in the shout box, we would be able to handle it better.

 

I agree it should be monitored but I don't agree it should necessarily be a major priority. The shout box is used less than Donator, which is saying something. The shout box is only really used when the server restarts. If someone is annoying/a problem in the shout box just shoot staff a message. Thats really the only advice I can give you on that.

 

Let us consider the frequency of the use of the shout box.

Based on the most recent shout box it appears to me that it is used for about 1-10 minutes every 1-2 hours. That is not frequent enough in my opinion to have staff constantly checking it. In game is far more important and full of far too many issues to have staff constantly switching between the two.

 

After reading a few of your suggestions, it seems that you like to make large problems out of itty bitty little issues.

 

I don't quite think that applies to this suggestion specifically...

 

He is trying to get a staff member to monitor the shoutbox more frequently.... I think it does apply. I really haven't seen any major problems with the shoutbox, and quite frankly, I don't even see a problem with banned users mentioning terms of their ban so long as they keep things polite and appropriate.

 

In my mind, personal background doesn't apply when making suggestions. Scammers, trolls, and flat out annoying people can make just as good suggestions as those with clean background records. Specifically pointing peoples past and background just make them look bad when it doesn't even apply to the current situation seems off topic, and slightly rude.

 

Its like in chemistry, if I know how Fluorine bonds then I can guess how Chlorine will bond. Trends are useful when considering elements of the same column. Similarly, if I know the nature of past suggestions, then I can guess the nature of current ones by the same user. Also, I find this entire suggestion a little rude to a specific banned user who uses the Shoutbox regularly and has a history of dispute with this thread creator, but nothing is new under the sun.

 

You seem to be using the Ad Hominem fallacy, if you read up on it, or, more likely, your already familiar with it, you'll know what I'm talking about.

 

An Ad Hominem-like fallacy is when one attacks an argument's premise using an attack on the author's character. My statement was an observation of a trend found in a collection of data. I did not use this observation to say, "banned users should be allowed in the shoutbox," but instead I used it to attack his argument's motive reducing it to predictable and not unique. I did insert my own opinion which is probably counterproductive.

Jason1964

 

I agree, you did not use it to specifically attack the suggestion itself and disagree with it, that was a slight slip in my part. Although, you still spoke against dork, which was off topic. Either way, I meant no offense to you personally, and I like how you take debating in a good regular fashion.

 

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