BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD IDEA

 

BUrrito you just say that cause you use vanish.

 

So you're just saying it because you can't use vanish if so then some money should be given back because the only reason i paid so much was for that vanish

 

BADBADBADBADBAD

 

Whoa there. Slow down a bit.

I'm hoping that using vanish in this particular way wasn't the entire reason you got it, because that's a horrible idea. Things like this will be "patched" or the like very quickly, and if it's what you got the feature for, you just 'wasted' $100.

This user is not requesting vanish to be removed, so don't freak out. Getting something like this done would only fix this one issue, and quite frankly, you shouldn't have "abused" it in the first place if you have been the one doing so.

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Anyway, please tell me how this would be a bad idea. Tell me exactly how this would effect anyone negatively. (Other than of course people not being able to sneak up on people with it and the like.)

 

Investigator is almost Stealth+

I have asked a GameAdmin on this before and was told that the /vanish donation feature is considered trolling in pvp in circumstances other than stalking.

Again later I witnessed a SuperMod saying that the usage we were witnessing was legal.

I feel however that trolling with this feature is much more common than anticipated. I don't think it's fair that I can be attacking somebody in PVP and have them disappear as if they used /home or /spawn to get away quickly just to have them resurface a few moment later with full health and a str potion they were able to use by instantly /vanishing and unvanishing behind cover.

I understand that the Investigator feature is $100 and needs to be powerful but I don't think that making it this powerful is necessary. You can prevent a lot of the issues players will have with others using this feature by adding a warm-up delay to it's activation, as many servers have with their /home and /spawn commands, as well as an additional cool-down delay to prevent players from spamming vanish between attacks and essentially making themselves untouchable.

I agree 100% with Ajr00 and believe there should be:
5 Second Warm-Up: Before Vanish Takes Place
5 Second Cool-Down: After player Reappears before blocks can be altered, food/potions can be used, players can be attacked

Players would still be able to utilize vanish for their advantage in a multitude of ways, namely those that don't exploit PVP. With this feature as it is, it is totally unbalanced. With these changes Vanish would still be a remarkably unique and powerful donation feature and would allow players a freedom to do much more with themselves between the worlds and options ECC offers.

If nothing happens at all I propose a more concise definition be supplied with donator features explaining in detail, with some examples, what is and isn't legal with them. I believe that would clear up confusion created by some of the features as well as give people something more to desire if they can visualize some more uses and opportunities a feature may present.

 

Well D0rc the reason I payed $100 was for the vanish I wouldn't pay that much money just for log block

 

I have to agree with this completely.

That's fine, paying $100 for vanish is reasonable.
This user however was not suggesting removal of the feature. In fact, he was suggesting something that only people who had malicious intents would really care about making not happen IMO. So why do you insist on this not happening?

 

I don't mind if people vanish in the main world but when people start vanishing in pvp it's really annoying and way over powered. Even with the delay users can still abuse pvp and have a unfair advantage. I would like to suggest vanish to be disabled in pvp areas or at least the Mining World and Nether.

 

Because D0rc I have malicious intent and I also use vanish in the nether to traverse lava lakes, same with the mining world.

 

To be frank I think the entire feature is overpowered. You’re basically buying a nerfed version of god-mode, with the added little treat of being able to finger anyone for grief. Anyways the vanish thing in pvp is way overpowered you simply can’t be killed. I’m with Boston on this no vanishing in pvp.

 

I do think users should have the advantage of being able to vanish in pvp if they so desire but the warm-up and cool down times will make it more reasonable.

If Burrito wants to vanish to walk across lava then he should be able to. If somebody wants to stalk in mining world using vanish they should be able to, i just feel that the cool down time after they reappear would allow for the new resident in mining world who's just been found to have some sort of reaction that might save their life. On the same token, it's useful for people who are miners. They don't need to worry about sneaking through the pvp'ers in mining world to find a place to start into their caves if they utilize it.

 

I really don't understand why investigator is even allowed in the mining world and nether It serves absolutely no purpose as far as "investigating" anything. Only allow it in the main world and it will solve all these problems.

 

You know, Burrito (and Ant :b), there is a major reason why /vanish and the entire Investigator feature used to be SuperMods+...

ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE

There are rules in place that state not to be a troll, not to do things maliciously, harass people, etc... Which is one thing; that the entire donation feature kind of breaks the rules, imho (and stalking people has gotten (though a long time ago) a Moderator demoted...)-- And there are especially things that are highly frowned upon (some being disabled at some point). Teleportation in PVP, flying, disarm, and I'm sure there's other things.

And if you are going to just say "badbadbad," well... Why bother posting? I think most people know that PVPers (and those who bought the feature and PVP often) will be highly against it. At least put a decent, well-written, logical post about why you are against it in ways other than "I want to abuse it."

I will admit I highly dislike the donation feature, but I will also admit that I've never been a PVPer and don't generally care what's going on, so long as people aren't getting too upset or being highly overpowered. So, I do agree with this suggestion. There should be a cooldown of sorts, at least for re-vanishing. Teleportation even has it, for good reasons.

 

Fully support this proposal.

 

I disagree with this suggestion, you pay $100 which is alot of money to most, so it should stay as it is and not be nerfed

 

:twisted:

 

We payed $100 for this, it should be unnerfed and USABLE.