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    That is exactly what I mean, and yes, it is enabled :p
     
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    Edit: page didn't refresh for me
     
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    I believe that the rule "You must have 8-10 trade signs" under the spawn shop section should be removed if it is not enforced.
     
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    Yeah, staff have seemed to ignore this one. At the very least it needs clarification.
     
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    Also, these rules from the buycraft page should be removed or enforced:
     
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    Another Update regarding LWC Removals, Eviction Notices and being removed from a town.

    Significantly:
    - No more town wide 7 day eviction periods. All evictions are 3 days regardless of the number of users.
    - A new subforum and format for eviction threads. They aren't required anymore, however can offer an easier way of evicting multiple users.
    - More detailed guidelines on what is required of eviction notices.
    - Added a procedure for when access to LWCs is blocked.

    1. Section 5, Clause 3 'Seizure of Propety & 3 Day Eviction Notices'



    By owning the town, a town Mayor has the right to remove you from the town at any time, for any reason, so long as the Mayor gives the user a 3 day eviction notice.
    • An eviction notice may be given by in-game (either by PM or /mail) or by tagging evicted users in a thread in the Town Evicitions sub-forum within the Towns Discussion forum. It is not required to post a thread for any eviction, although it may be easier if you are evicting multiple users.
    • The eviction notice must contain the name of the town. Be sure to collect evidence of this for LWC Removal Requests and/or proof should it be required at a later date. It is crucial that the screenshot has a timestamp (double tap f2).
    • If the user being evicted has LWCs in the town and the Mayor intends to file an LWC Request to have them removed, the eviction notice must include a specific request that the user removes their locks within the 3 days.
    • The evicted user must have had the opportunity to view the eviction notice. If the user has not been online, in-game or on the forums depending on how the eviction notice was issued, during the 3 day period then the eviction is not valid. The mayor or co-mayor must wait until the user is inactive (at least 7 days offline) or has been online to view to the notice before removing the user from the town or filing an LWC Removal Request.
    However, under the following circumstances, the 3 day eviction criteria need not be met and the user may be removed from the town:
    • A user is inactive (by staff standards, this means at least 7 days offline.)
    • A user who has been banned for griefing in the town.
    2. Section 5, Clause 4 'LWC Removal Requests'


    • LWCs in towns may only be removed with a request in the Staff Requests forum by the mayor or co-mayor of the town under the following circumstances:
      • A user is inactive (by staff standards, this means at least 7 days offline.)
      • A user has been issued a 3 day eviction notice that complies with the requirements above in Clause 3. Proof of the eviction notice must be provided.
      • A user has been banned for Moderate+ grief in the town.
      • A user has been requested to remove their locks via an eviction notice and has outrightly declined to do so (timestamped proof of declination to remove locks must be provided with the request.)
    • Any other request that does not follow these guidelines is considered attempted theft, and in serious cases, you may be punished for attempting to illegally remove locks.
    • Locks in the wild and locks belonging to the applicant owner of the town may not be removed.
    • You may not block access to any locked belongings of the evicted user at any time. Staff will deny all requests in which the LWCs have been blocked in an attempt to protect items.
      • If your request has been locked for this reason, you must re-issue the 3 day eviction notice and may only file a new LWC removal request once the 3 day eviction period has expired.
      • If the player was not issued an eviction notice as they had been offline for 7+ days, then you must still wait 3 days before re-filing the request.
     
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    Thanks for the updates, dewsy! :)
     
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    "You may not block access to any locked belongings..."
    Block access from the person getting their items or block access from trolls trying to get their hands on my newly unlocked LWC?

    These rules also don't clarify what "removing someone from a town" means. If someone griefs, regardless of the grief, I will remove their perms (aka /rg removemember). I will then provide them an easy 3 days to remove their locks and I will tear down their house for them and give them all the materials. The question is, is that illegal? I now have to allow griefers to keep perms while they are removing their stuff?

    In other words; is it legal to remove someone's perms before removing them from the town?

    Removing from the town = /rg removemember?
    Or
    Removing from the town = you're not allowed to be here any more.
     
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    I have a sign in my rules area that says you will be removed for greif/not replanting. I remove all users that break this rule. To my knowledge, you are allowed to remove the user if they have been given clear instruction not to greif.
     
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    You can't block access to the chests regardless of who you are protecting them against.

    'Removing someone from a town' means /rg removemember.
     
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    I like the new eviction subforum. Just like with the halloween build comp...I was the first one to post a thread once again. :roflmao:
     
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    What's funny is I was actually thinking about suggesting a sub forum because I was annoyed that when I was looking at towns in the towns section all I saw was eviction notices. I like how we are slowly organizing the forums a little bit better.
     
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    So, procedural question which just came up for me. I have a player who was just banned for Moderate Grief in the town. So, I've removed him from the town as well -- but I haven't yet done anything to his house but lock the front door (which was unlocked) so no one else messes with it. Under those circumstances, when is it appropriate to remove the house, the contents, and/or file for LWC removal?
     
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    Removing a member from a town includes removal of perms, house etc. Regardless of the level of grief, so long as the player has been banned per a Grief Report you may remove them immediately.

    As for LWC removals there is a slight difference. If the player is banned for moderate or major grief, you may file an LWC request immediately. If the player was only banned for minor grief, then you must still comply with the 3 day eviction notice. Their perms can be removed immediately should the town mayor decide to do so, but they must still be allowed 3 days in which to collect their belongings.
     
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    Town Perms are not needed to get into locked chests to remove their contents, they can get in no matter what. However, without perms, one can not remove the chests themselves, nor furnaces, anvils, etc. The locks on these items can be removed by the player though.
     
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    I have to disagree with this, it doesn't make sense. The only way I can keep rogue presidents from flying into my town and taking stuff out of my newly unlocked chests is building a wall around the chests and having staff tp directly inside. You're now saying that doing this is illegal. I don't understand the reasoning behind this rule. It only makes it easier for trolls to steal LWC's and for honest people to be angry and upset.
     
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    This was added into the rules a few months ago; it isn't anything new. Previously it was under the old Clause 3 Seizure of Property. I just moved it into the LWC section.

    The reason is that it is there is at no point is the town mayor the owner of the items. Before the LWC removal request is handled, the items still belong the owner of the locks. Afterwards, the items belong to no one. If you look at the most common way in which people are removed from towns: Inactivity. After 7 days offline someone can be removed from the town. The vast majority of town Mayors will remove the player and then file an LWC removal request. If you were to block off access to the chests, the time between the Mayor removing the perms and the LWC removal being completed, the player would still own the items inside but wouldn't be able to access them (no perms. There may be some people who don't remove players until after the request is handled, but I can guarantee you that the vast majority of town mayors remove perms before filing an lwc because it is something that I have looked into and tracked. This is all of course underpinned by the policy that LWC' requests aren't for the purpose of the mayor getting the items, but for clearing space.

    That being said however, people using /tpc to get to LWCs is something which I don't particularly like and something which I have also tracked quite a bit recently. The above rule is very unlikely to change, but I am looking into ways at the moment that we can discourage/make it harder for other people to profit so much from doing this.
     
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    So. Admins are no longer handlin grief reports from town owners that hire an investigator?
     
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    Wwe still handle them, just we investigate it ourselves rather than rely on a 3rd party investigator.
     
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    Hmm, so would it be perfectly alright to let the player have perms and only remove them AFTER the LWC was filed instead of before?