The thing with that is that naming it "Chicken Egg" would get confused with the spawn egg on other servers. Mojang wouldn't do this anyway, we are one server with one problem that most people won't have :p..

 

Out of those, I say regulate it more, but that is even more stuff that mods have to look out for. and it adds another thing that new players have to learn about auction.

don't remove auction chat though, it is very useful for a lot of people. I use it when I just want to be rid of something and I don't want to advertise for a long time in trade. If I start it at free, I am guaranteed to get something for my unwanted item.

 

No, nothing needs to change. People just need to be less ignorant, you should know exactly what you are buying before buying it.

 

These are good suggestions, but I feel as if 1 and 4 are a but Over the top.

 

Yes the world will be such a better place when we just assume everyone else is a jerk and out to get you. *sarcasm*

 

Perhaps a wiki article on proper auction etiquette and procedures? Maybe a /help auction? Would you guys like those additions?

 

I think that either way, people wont read the /help auction. Even if we force them to read it, who says that they will actually read it?
To your wiki idea, i do understand that it is written there, but not many people will actually read it. Ive read much of the wiki, and its a lot, so people might not even reach it.
What i think needs to happen is to make this scam illegal. If someone is interested in buying a horse egg, let them be the ones who ensure that what they are buying is a horse egg. Let them ask to specify what kind of egg, let them ask to see it before they pay. If they provide enough evidence against scamming, which is illegal.
I dont understand why this isnt already against the rules for scamming as it says here


Clause II: Scamming
It is very difficult for us to be positive that a scam has occurred. Moderators do not have access to server logs, and thus it is the responsibility of the user to gain evidence of a scam in the form of screenshots of transaction agreements and payments in order for scams to be investigated by posting a formal complaint. For help with knowing what the staff need in screenshot evidence, there is a forum thread with a good basic outline. It is solely the responsibility of the user to trust or distrust the other user(s) in a transaction situation, and also to solve any issues that may arise. Always remember: If an offer seems too good to be true, it probably is, and use caution when proceeding. EcoCityCraft staff are not responsible for and will not refund anything lost in a scam transaction, though some staff will be happy to attempt discussions to retrieve your lost possessions on your behalf. This policy applies to all forms of transactions, including loans and item rentals.

 

"Because an egg is an egg and a horse egg is a horse egg" they aren't technically misrepresenting an egg as something it is not. They are just implying it with the large price tag. I hate it when i play devils advocate...

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If they say "selling horse egg starting at 10k" and it turns out to be a chicken egg then the mods would have a case (as I understand it)

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I also want to point out this in the auction clause

"There is to be no *Mystery Auctions* in the auction channel. Every item for auction must be described prior to beginning the auction, and it must be server-related."

We should change this to say the specific item. This can also apply to melon swords, pumpkin axes,etc.
Also, saying egg should be narrowed. Theres only 3 eggs in existence in ECC. They are the villager eggs, chicken eggs (not spawn chicken [item id -383:93 i believe]) and horse eggs. There needs to be a differential between the various eggs such as
"Selling Villager eggs, starting at ___"
"Selling Chicken eggs, starting at ___"
"Selling Horse eggs, starting at ___"
Its not like itll take an hour to add the extra word. Shouldnt be too hard.

 

+1! :)

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Woohoo

 

My plus one doesn't mean anything. It might as well mean "+0.0001"

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:(

 

While I like the concept of this thread, I do see a few things that I want to give my opinion on.

Directed at the OP:

1.) I would love to see auction chat replaced by something else, as I find the channel causes problems and spam. However, I have yet to see a suggestion where there is a net positive change for the server to either remove the channel/replace it. Maybe a "/help auction" as stated above in this thread would solve many issues, and I have no idea while it is not added already.

2.) While the Staff Team tries to regulate auction chat, it isn't an easy channel to moderate perfectly. While the issue where users use an item name that can be used for two different items is a very old issue; this issue has gotten much more attention now since the difference between a horse spawn egg and a chicken egg is very substantial. If I remember correctly, in Minecraft's coding, the chicken egg (not the chicken spawn egg) is refereed to as "egg" and the issue is that the buyer assumes it is the much more valuable horse spawn egg. Maybe stating the data value would help, however so could people being blunt and asking "Is that a horse spawn egg?" before bidding a large number.

3.) This is not something I can't really talk about as I don't use the auction channel myself. I prefer our current system of being more 'serious' though this part of the suggestion isn't something I'm going to focus on in this post.

4.) As already stated in this thread, our server is more of an "out-layer" when it comes to Minecraft servers. The game was never meant to have an economy attached to it, so Mojang doesn't develop with that in-mind.

As to what Zedoker said, it would be great if they stated the item name when they did the auction, as they are meant to, however referring to a chicken egg as "egg" is technically correct, since "/itemdb egg" would bring up a chicken egg. I hate to say this, though many of the people that fall for these 'scams' are at no fault at their own. They should ask "Is that a horse spawn egg?" before they bid large numbers, and not assume the higher price tag, or some vague context clues is justifiable reason to assume it is.


Edit: Tl;dr Most of these issues could be resolved if the buyer asked more questions and didn't assume when making a purchase of this size.

 

I thoroughly enjoy and support this wonderful forthright exchange of ideas!

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