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Do you believe that Donors who xray and blatantly cheat, should be allowed to be unbanned?

  1. Yes

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    51.1%
  2. No

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    48.9%
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  1. Purrguin Builder
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    Donators for a while have been allowed to get away with xraying... I've seen many ban appeals by xraying donors who have always been directed to andrew, and then 99% of the time have been unbanned afterwards.. I don't think, it's fair to the other players, that even if we are donors, we should be allowed to do something as offensive as xray on the server, and still get away with it simply because of our status..

    I want honest opinions here.. Even if they do pay money, they should know the risk of losing everything they worked for when they decide to cheat on the server like every other player who gets permanently banned..
     
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    Donators have a very slim chance of appeal to it. And you are also way off on the percentage. Donators rarely get unbanned for it, they must PM Andrew with a very nice appeal, it has to be of utmost quality and they must really be willing to get back on the server.

    List more than 5 users you know who got unbanned for X-ray. Then we will talk.
     
  3. Purrguin Builder
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    Emu was unbanned multiple times for xraying to my knowledge.. Brando was unbanned, SKSoccer was unbanned.. That's 3 I can list off the top of my head who all got banned for xraying, and after their appeals to andrew got unbanned.
     
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    You say it's rare that a donater get unbanned for xraying, yet the last 2 ban appeals for xraying by donaters that I saw in the ban appeal sections, got unbanned... This doesn't seem like a rarity to me, especially when one of them raged like all hell and then blatently denied ever using it, and then in a chat with the user, admitted to using it to me, which i got a ss of.. Not only did he LIE in the appeal, he probably LIED to andrew, and still got unbanned.
     
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    Well frankly I am fine with them being unbanned. I have never thought the way x-rayers are perm banned was right anyway. No matter how good the checking system is it’s still a human doing it and humans makes mistakes sometimes. If it was my choice everyone would have the chance to try to send Andrew a nice appeal for a second chance not just donators.
     
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    I want opinions is all..
     
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    nope donating does NOT make you immune to the rules.
     
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    ....*rereads original post*.....sorry there purrguin didn't read that last paragraph *feels quite silly*
     
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    I made a mistake. I wanted a second chance and got it. I make sure to follow the rules exactly, cause I know I will be banned forever if I do anything wrong
     
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    I agree with rosy if donators get a second chance everyone should.
     
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    I believe it is looked at case by case. If someone uses xray and the benifit from it then im assuming they are not unbanned. If it wasnt a serious offense then they should have an opportunity to appeal. In any case xray is really not an issue with the anticheats that are in place now. I havent seen a ban appeal regarding xray in a long time.

    Honestly I dont think its really anyones buisness other then the admins. This has been by far the best run server I have found and it is run very well.

    I see no real point in this topic other then to create another flame war because you feel you were wrongly banned yourself. You have been a contrbuting member of this community and have done some great things. Why do you want to continue to push the envelope and cause more trouble then nessesary? I think we all get that you are upset and feel that you were treated unfairly, but this is not the best way to get your message across.

    I new emu pretty well. He was not banned for xray. As far as the other 2 you mentioned its not up to you or anyone other then the mods and the owner. Leave it at that.

    Just my opinion.
     
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    I completly agree with youc Purrguin Like you said in vent The day i have 2 xray is the day i stop playing this game cuz its not fun and its the only reason i would have 2 cheat
     
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    They shouldn't be able too. But I don't understand why some people get more chances? I know a kid that has gotten in trouble atleast 7 or 8 times but every ban appeal they tell him to really read the rules... Greer lol that's my rant -_-
     
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    I think donators should be allowed to appeal for a second chance after x-raying. Many people think, "They are donators, the should be better at following the rules," or, "Its not fair that only they get appeals. Being a donator does not give people the right to cheat and get away with it. Being a donator shows that you are loyal to the server, dispite making mistakes.
     
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    Everybody deserves a 2nd chance, but if you are a donor then that does not make you immune.
     
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    Or better yet.... just DONT break the rules in the first place lol
     
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    Well, there is a grey area here. Most people will look and see that X-Ray is VERY illegal, which, it is! However, others who donated a lot, (Like my self) will be literally DEAD if we were ever banned from ECC.

    The way I see it, EXTREME DONATORS (Over $100 [like myself]) Should at least get... somewhat of a break. Maybe a second chance, maybe not, like I said, there is a fine line.

    All in all, X-Ray is a verrryyy bad thing. It truly messes with our server's economy and gives "Hackers" a chance at high cash.
     
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    Thats the easy way!!!!
     
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    Im curious what Andrew thinks of this.
     
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