I'm going to try to say what @Dccciz was probably trying to say (And before you go haywire, yes I read the main post) I sit behind my phone, and computer, looking at the forums and emails constantly. I see the posts made, some of which I scoff at, others catch my attention long enough for me to post a remark or two. The ones concerning PvP, however, I kind of scoff at a bit. A bit of time ago, this server began. People came, and a community formed. Eventually this community grew, and due to it's size, became less and less of a community. Granted, the focus of the server is economics, but the best way for a server to really excel is to have a good sized community. There was no kits, no survival games. This caused those who wanted to do PvP to either go to the mining world (before that was removed) and the PvP world. This is the time when players were PvP active. Clans, teams, organizations, and friends all paired up to try and compete with one another. Sometimes for fun, others looking for profit. But, SG was added. After SG was added, the population of those who actively PvP'ed started to dwindle. The usual "Newbs" that came looking for PvP, would find that there was a more fair and even alternative, the brand new SG maps. So instead of being introduced to the PvP world, they played SG with the other people. Aaand then the bloody kits were added. Buffer. EA. Hunter. Spy. Now the new players join the SG maps, thinking it's an even alternative to PvP, but when in all reality, it's less fair than PvP. I honestly think it'll take a lot for PvP to make as big as a comeback that you're all hoping for. It will need to be more centered, as to have a main PvP arena. There will need to be changes with MCMMO. And the best way to bring attention towards something is to have an instant reward for doing so, or an event that draws attention to there as well. Seeing PvP back would be great. But I don't think it'll ever be as big as you're wanting.
That's what I'm trying to say. It's not as popular and there's little to no economic value when compared to the 'SG Giant'.
that is not true at all pvp brings in more money than SG easily depending on the person also pvp was one of the top things on the server way better than hunger games where people pay to win
Honestly, I love PvP, it's in my name. But for sure, I will never ever EVER PvP on here unless we downgrade to 1.7, or get a plugin that gets the 1.7 or earlier updates hit registry, and the look of the NORMAL 1.7 blocking (I'm actually ok with the limited block hitting, you countering nublets. ). When I started going big in pvp late 2013, pvp was fairly active. Not really prot 4 people there, but there was plenty of noobs for me to practice and pvp with. I would love new arena's, but there's no point if there can't be a fix in the rubberbanding, and Hit registry of 1.8. I would love ECC with all my heart if PvP can get fixed. As of late on 1.7 PvP I have been getting many combo's, and I need a new source of money. (If I gain some confidence) Thanks for making this thread riku. And If this gets fixed, I'll be happy seeing you guys in the arena's!
This is the kind of response I was looking for from Dcciz. As for what you said about what needs to happen its all been suggested and ignored, that's why I made this thread. I want to know if admins etc even care anymore because we'll stop making the suggestions and we will leave or find something else to do. As for your comments on PvP itself you're very uninformed, and I'm confused about the less of a community part. PvPers had a lot of arguments but none of the actual PvPers ever truly hated each other. As I type this I'm sitting in a channel with 5 of they guys I fought the most and trash talked the most. So ya I think people need to see that they don't know as much as they think about PvP, it's bigger than you think and it's a lot more different than you think.
Unfortunately, it is painfully obvious that PVP is not important when it comes to the ECC server. There have been hundreds, if not thousands of suggestions and requests of all kind for tweaks and changes there have been many responses from staff and owner that ECC is a hardcore economy server first and foremost. There are a couple of exceptions - one was the introduction of the random "no kit" SG game - I believe 1/8 and some type of counter adjustment if I am not mistaken. That said, there have been hints that we may be going to some type of "hub" server which may provide the answer that everyone hopes to hear. I suggest patience - I really do believe that the owners and staff are not "hiding" anything and will announce new or modified additions and solutions when they are ready. What I have found in my year and half here is that they really do care about all of us and are doing everything they can to provide us a playing area that is fun and exciting. I personally enjoy the hardcore aspect of this server which is why I play here, donate here, and am involved here. I have played on other servers in the last two years and not one single one has my towns, properties, and all my worth ever stayed - every single one of them has "wiped"everything I have built and earned - usually after some upgrade or another.
Most of the reason that PVP is dead is because the only way to earn money is by killing another and getting there stuff... which then you most likely sell... With SG... You get cold hard cash that is yours...
I was hoping to get a response from an admin or something sooner than this, anyway I think no answer is pretty much all this needs.
Unfortunately, this was exactly my point above. This suggestion is maybe a few days old, however, there are the exact same questions from months ago that are still not answered. I really feel that at this point, it may be just overwhelming that they see 5 or 10 suggestions on SG/PVP per day, many of them saying the same thing over and over and there have been answers given but no body that creates these is getting the answer they want, so they just keep trying.
I had just had this odd little break through inside my head. This server runs on what's popular right? What will get the most players and all that jazz. I bet when some new game comes out that everybody enjoys, this server and all servers will implement it. That's how server competition works. Obviously, PvP will be incredibly hard to change right now through ECC. But, there is Planet Minecraft and all those other gigantic Minecraft forums out there. Not server forums, Minecraft forums. Get something going about PvP. I lack anything within those forums but if someone were to rally up a bunch of people where all server owners could see... PvP might as well be as big as sliced bread! If somebody does do this, I'd gladly post on it.
If you've seen an answer link me plz, I haven't seen anything in my suggestions. The whole point of this is to get that answer. In all of your post you keep saying PvP is dead etc. and maybe everyone you talk to doesn't PvP but you need to realize the community you play with is not the only one. Notice I don't claim that everyone PvPs, everyone I talk to does but that doesn't make it true. Please try to think through what you're saying more because all you're doing is spreading false ideas. This goes for everyone posting too, not just you, it's the reason PvP died out. Everyone refused to recognize PvP as a part of ECC. Also FYI this isn't a suggestion
I am not the best at finding links (I know there are players that are awesome at this, however, the answer has been clear several times - "This is an economy server" - Also, I have never said PVP is dead, in fact I know that there is a PVP area on the server and there are also several towns that have PvP arenas that can be used so my point is - why don't you use what is already available? These are not false ideas as I personally would play more SG if there were no kits - not like I am any good anyway, but I still have fun dying sometimes The yellow highlighted is the answer to the question you were asking. I have several towns of my own that have PVP areas and am offering access to anyone that keeps complaining that PVP is dead - they can lay out the arena as they would like. A disclaimer is that I have offered this before and nobody has ever taken me up on it. I even have a town that is about 98% PvP enabled that I just claimed - are you willing to do something to make PvP happen or will you just be one to keep complaining and questioning and not do something?
This is an economy is the reason we get everytime, that's not an answer and thats why we all say we don't get an answer. This server is an economy therefore a way to make money is not a part of it. Killing people is not a part of it, oh wait nvm lets add SG, but that thing you were doing ya whatever. Everytime. As well as trying to get PvP going again first of all its hard when the server is limiting what I can do, even with that though a few PvPers including myself are working on a PvP cometition.
