Accepted [Website & Forums Suggestion] Update town warp application

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  1. SirChilledMrHobo

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
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    Short title for your suggestion:
    Update town warp application
    What are you suggesting:
    I am suggesting we update the town warp application/wiki to include a section that states you should place a sign where you want the warp to be facing or a question in the application the askes which direction you want the warp to be facing.

    This is currently not stated in the application as a question or as a description grey text underneath the answer forum.

    This is also currently not stated in the wiki.

    I see that the moderators seem to be asking this question a lot on applications because it's not asked or stated anywhere.

    People only know to place a sign if: They check other players warp applications and have seen it asked for or if they have applied for it before and have had it asked on their own application.
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    Saves time for moderators when having to complete these applications.
    Other information:
    Here are some examples of applications taking longer without this:
    https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/town-warp-application-awesomah.178856/#post-997093
    https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/town-warp-application-vaporwavey.179260/
    https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/town-warp-application-isaul007.178840/
    https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/town-warp-application-gunnthorian.178820/#post-996672
    https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/town-warp-application-lord_shaxt.178788/
    https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/town-warp-application-sneaky_cat.178740/

    Also to note: This is a simple change, we would be fine without it, it's just a quality of life for the moderators.

    If it's to much work to update the suggestion forum, update the wiki instructions with directions on placing a second sign 3 blocks away from the first sign stating the direction you want the warp to be facing when players warp in.

    On the wiki, it could read something like this:
    Next please place a second sign 3 (or however far away needed) from your co-ordinates sign stating the direction you want your warp to face (North, south, East, or West), this will be the direction players face when they warp into your town.

    On the forum, the question could be something like:
    What direction do want your warp to be facing (North, South, East, or West)?
    (In the small grey text underneath the answer box have: Press F3 to locate a direction or you /whereami command in-game to find the direction your facing.)
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    #2 Nicit6, Nov 26, 2018
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    I don't see anything on that page talking about placing a sign to indicate the direction you want your warp to face.
     
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    I think you failed to see the idea behind my suggestion. As you as your statement is completely wrong regards to my suggestion. Nowhere on our wiki does it ask, state, or regard to the direction in which you want your warp to face. I think you are referring to this section:
    • Please place a sign at your [x] [y] [z] co-ordinates that you provide within your applications. This sign will be the exact location people will warp to when using the /warp <townname> command.
    Yes, it does say where it should be placed, but not where to be faced.

    As to where it should be placed, I have stated either in the wiki, on the forum, or preferably both, I have even provided examples on how to implement them

    I have already provided references to other apps that show moderators asking for a direction or sign, clearly, people don't know about this until they apply for the warp. If this was already stated in the forum or on the wiki, then there wouldn't be questions asked.

    As for your suggestion about the red bolded front, I don't think that is necessary. If we simply include a section about the direction of the warp in the wiki or just ask a question in the forum about which direction you want the warp to face, will suffice enough.

    Edit: Heres our current wiki in regards to the town warp application.
     
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    That's because in the past it's generally been assumed that you want your warp facing whereever the sign faces. Or some other clearly obvious markings in the town.

    tbh I wasn't aware the was an issue, I don't recall it being a huge deal in any of the other times I've been on staff.
     
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    Presumptions do not help those in answering a forum. If a question asks for a sign to be placed where you want to warp to, then that is it meaning. To me placing a sign where it is located is just that. If I placed a sign with it facing opposite of an obviously created path for the person to warp and walk from, would be a mistake if the warp faced the opposite way.

    Never the less, again clearly other moderators do not presume to create the warp facing the same way the sign, as they are asking which direction they want it to be. As seen above again with the references I have provided from recently created warp applications.

    The suggestion here to aim and fix the need-less step of asking this question. If we include this question in the forum, it will be answered and the moderators will know without a doubt which way the warp should face.

    Edit: It is not a big issue as I've stated above, this is just a quality of life fix. Again I've provided the examples of this, so it can be avoided altogether.
     
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    I mean, you ignored the second half of that line that states "clearly obvious markings in the town" which is really key in the situation you're describing.

    My point being: This isn't a requirement in the first place. In my experience, it really doesn't need to be.
     
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    That was a quotation of your reply before you edited it.

    That is just one situation. What if there are no obvious markings, which clearly there are cases of, as I've provided links to examples of in my suggestion. Moderators still ask where the warp should face, this suggestion aim's to remove that question by already having it asked in the forum or stated on wiki, therefore having it answered for the moderator, eliminating the need of them having to ask.

    Yes, I agree its currently not a requirement, we can continue on without this suggestion, again its a quality of life change, so that it is more clear for users, to eliminate any doubt or question asked about the direction of where the warp should face, again as I link to multiple examples above in my suggestion.

    Your experience is valuable indeed and I agree, we would be fine without this. I am suggesting this because I think it can be an improvement to the application and further help other moderators by already having the answer they seek and helping to prevent any future problem by having a warp face the wrong way. I do not see the harm in having a question on the forum that asks for a direction of the warp. Again as I've stated above an example of how it could be implemented.
     
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    I think its a good idea, assuming things (like what way a warp should face) leads to issues. If someone gets a warp and its facing the wrong way they need to hassle staff to try move it.
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    Seems simple enough to add to the application/wiki
     
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    I think adding something about adding in where you want your warp to be placed would be great.
    Often times when I was a GA if the user was online, I would message them just to make sure I placed their warp facing the right direction.

    Could just add a question on the app to include the "Facing:" direction that's listed in f3
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