Denied [Website & Forums Suggestion] Other Users To Pay For ForumECD Medal

I mean, yeah, but has anyone said you can't do this in the first place?

 

Unless it has changed and I haven't noticed, paying people money via forums is a forum premium-only feature

 

Yea, but this suggestion isn't suggesting to change that. It's suggesting allowing proxy payments via other players for this medal.

but like, Andrew, United, and the SAs aren't unreasonable people. I find it hard to believe that they'd say no to this arrangement if anyone actually asked.

 

On the counter to your point, I'm always hesitant to agree with people saying "We need to change this documented process/rule because of a hypothetical issue". In my experience, hypothetical issues are rarely the same as actual issues, and hypothetical solutions often require fixing when the actual problem occurs anyway.

You can't truly eliminate "he said, she said" misinformation, because SAs will always be free to grant exceptions to rules (assuming players read them in the first place). In my experience, making things wordier makes people less likely to read them, and in turn more reliant on word of mouth from others.

Honestly, if we're going to codify an exception here, I don't actually think we should go with what you've proposed. We should direct people to make the payments directly via an SA. It makes it a more simplified process on their end to verify, and can avoid some potential nonsense.

 

To counter this, when/if the hypothetical issue arises, there is always some "blown out of proportion" response from the community (two that come to mind is Town of the Month Prestige and the recent Nymeria controversial auction. Both came from vague or problematic wiki/rule statements that would've been resolved sooner if they accounted for some rare issues). I rather all bases be covered so we don't have the issue in the future rather than having the issue come up and we need to figure it out from there.

With that being said, I can see one of a few fixes to this potential issue:

1. Messaging Andrew and thinking of an alternative before you apply (it should be stated in the app that if you cannot send money to andrew on the forums to message him before applying)
2. Allow forum ECD transferring to just Andrew for everyone regardless of forum premium or not (keep forum premium the same)
3. Allow /pay andrewkm 10000000 ingame as an option (and post the ingame screenshot with time stamp)

 

That's just not true. SAs/administration make loads of case by case decisions, and the vast majority the playerbase at large likely never hears about.

1. Seems pointless? Like, a formalized process to ask of a one-off exemption just adds nonsense to the process.
2. This would be good but I'm not sure our plugin would support that.
3. In game transactions are more difficult to verify, plus it's much harder to catch andrew online.

 

I agree with everything nicit6 said in this suggestion.
Just ask an @STAFF-04 Server Admin for an exemption.
No need to make this some formalized process.