People like this, when complaints are made against them, have their reputation stained forever, personally I tend to read the ban appeals/complaints forum, and so do many 0thers. These people will suffer because no one will help them, trade with them or talk to them. These people always stay in the "grey" area of the rules but they will be caught one day, they will have a solid case put against them, and they will fall. The best thing to do, in my opinion, is to alert others to the scams that people carry out and explain to them how to take appropriate action to ensure they don't fall for the traps.
I agree that blacklisting these types of individuals is a good course of action for standard users, practicing proactive approaches by asking "What kind of egg are you sell" when you see someone start an ambiguous auction etc. But unfortunately that can only go so far. Until there is a punishment there will be more people who try to take advantage of others in (what I consider to be) an illegal way.
http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/complaint.65869/#post-313806 and it continues Pater is the new legalscammer
Although what he has done is despicable, I think it is just as bad to make what he did known. People like him do not deserve any attention from us, in any way. If people find out for themselves, that is a different matter. And until he breaks a rule, we must simply watch. But we will be there for when he breaks a rule.
i wholeheartedly disagree More people should be talking about it and him specifically so more people know not to have any kind of dealings with him. He should publicly blacklisted and no one should trade with him or anyone else.
I thought this thread would die out in a week or two. Eventually I HAD to see why it was still active. Really, Staff, why is this still here? If I went in-game and said "Abc123 is a scammer! He scammed me!" Staff would tell me to be quiet. You sit here and let people post this? Anyway, as to my opinion, this seems like a very, very, very sticky situation. Besides having staff ban people who try and do this, because it's within rules, I think Andrew should simply make a minor change to the rules. This is very simple, and would solve it all. Clause II.i: Renaming Items Users shall not rename items for the sole purpose of increasing its value in an auction or trade. You cannot give an item a name of an item that already exists. If a renamed item is to be sold in auction or trade, you must specify that it is a renamed item and say what the original item was. If a user is caught renaming items to take advantage of other users, their punishment will fall under scamming. When selling an item you must describe it 100%. If you say, "egg" you must describe if it is chicken, villager, or horse. When selling a "named" item, such as "melon sword" or "pumpkin axe", you must describe enchants, if any, and type of tool (sword, pick ,ect), and what material it is made out of (wood, iron, ect). If you are selling two or more items in one auction, you must define each and every one individually, and must show that the items are two different items, not just one (example: selling melon sword, must say if selling a melon and selling a sword). Something like this would solve the whole issue.
Although it is unfortunate that these individuals continue to take advantage of others, the staff team must follow procedures when dealing with rules. The fact is these users did not break any specific rules and/or proper evidence was not provided allowing action to be taken. It is sad to see this, but the buyers have a responsabilty to the following: You trade at your own risk. If you do not know or 100% trust the person stay away. Pay close attention to what the description is and make them repeat it. Confirm the item and take a screen shot for evidence. The truth is that most of these complaints/issues could simply be avoided if buyers were more careful.
I'm not sure if this has been announced yet, but there have also been cases where users state this in auction: "Auctioning a melon and sword starting at (high-price here)" People see it and think that they are selling a melon sword when in reality they are selling a diamond sword and a melon. I just thought you could add this if possible.
Meh, I didn't read the rest of the stuff. Hence me saying "I don't know if this has been mentioned yet."
