At work. See the complaint for my reasons as to why this is unpaid and will remain unpaid for some time
Thankyou.

(Almost gave out my first potato rating)

 

Okay so back from work. This complaint really annoys me. Here's a few basic complaint points:

1. Please provide evidence of paying me the $235,000 (Since it has gone to this extent, I would like evidence)
2. You owe me money, I filed a complaint first which had nothing to do with me not paying an investment but the loan scamming was almost ignored.
3. The total owed to me is greater than the total I "owe" you.
4. According to contract terms I am not forced to repay your investment currently as the prerequisites have not been met.
5. Please read all responses of the complaint on Ldw116 to see images. Not just page 2.
6. Seriously...

"I have asked for it back. He says no. He also says that since I owe him. He could just use my 235k to help pay that off. So the argument it's in a loan is invalid"

Correct, you asked for it back. And I did say no. That's right. I have also said that because you owe me I will take your investment to negate your debt. You owe me money so why would I pay you MORE money. That's like if I owe you 500k and you owe me 500k, wouldn't we just call it even?...

The argument that it is in a loan means I cannot pay it out to you as that is our policy/rules and stated in the CONTRACT that you signed. Please read the full contract terms before agreeing. I have about $5,000,000 of investments that aren't in a contract that I could just take right now with almost no reasonable evidence that I should pay it back... Of course I still will though. But ours was in a contract, safer yes, but according to terms I do not have to pay it back just now. Eventually I will have to yes, and when I have to, I will.

Do I have the right to take your investment to negate your debt? No I do not. But you don't have the right to withdraw just yet either. So I am giving you three options (In my own complaint... because this should be void) and here are your three options:
1. You take the investment sacrifice and negate $235,000 of your debt to me and pay the remaining total asap. Negotiable on due date. That's the best option for you.
2. You repay the loan to me right now. Then we wait for FuryFudge to repay his loan and I will pay out your investment as soon as possible after he repays.
3. You some-how avoid a ban for loan scamming and wait for FuryFudge to repay his loan. Then I pay out your investment and you still owe me $520,000.

Option 1 is the best option for you. Option 2 is the best option for me. Option 3 is stupid for both of us, because I'll be filing staff complaints if you manage to avoid a ban for loan scamming.


Please make your choice. I don't currently see this complaint as valid as there is no evidence of payment to show. Once/If you show proof of payment then we can work from there.

Also. If you have lost proof of payment, I still run a legitimate business and WILL possibly STILL repay your investment once your loan to me is paid off. Even without proof, to almost all people.

Proof of payment will definitely speed up your attempts to try get me banned though ;)
Good-luck.

 

Actually, fun fact, the contract term in which he agrees to get you back your money doesn't apply here.

The rules (Section 2, Clause 4) state that you MUST use common sense when playing on ECC.

Contracts, including the one @ldw116 agreed to, state that: "terms in this contract are subject to all of EcoCityCraft's rules".

It's not common sense to give someone money when they owe it to you. Common sense is to just subtract the investment off the debt owed. Rules are superior to contracts and common sense is what should be applied here.

 

Your loan would've still been late at that point, your evidence shows the money was requested back in the first few days of March, yet your loan was due on Feb 24th.

You're late on the loan either way and common sense says that obble is within right to hold money from you until you are no longer in debt, if necessary applying your money to the debt.

 

I want evidence. If there's no proof this complaint is void.

Common sense is that if there is two debts conflicting you'd make the difference. At work if I do a refund of $50 and you want to buy an item for $55. Then I take your item and charge $5... Yes common sense. Thankyou @Nicit6

Is this not a break of the common sense rule.. I can't even tag a relevant staff member because not a single person has handled this. But eh.

But you can only repay $5,000 a day? Hmm... how would you earn $450,000 in 11 days. That's only $55,000.

Gambling?

Loan should've been paid before the proposed unlock date.

If I were to pay you right now I'd be breaching my contract. Term says I cannot pay you until I have the money back from loans.

"I shouldn't have to pay this loan because I get nothing in return"


You repay a loan because it is owed. Generally the loan gives you short-term profit/gain, then you repay the extra money. You don't "gain" from repaying a loan. Like wat.




This complaint should be locked, at least until my complaint is handled against Ldw. This is becoming childish.