Which was this:

Which is also unedited ;)

 

As for SG, not only builders complain about kits. I have seen all ranks as well as staff express their displeasure with kits. I will say that since the last buffer nerf and small decrease in rewards, it seems that the amount of complaints have drastically reduced. Decisions to change any aspect of the economy on the server are always difficult for the owners, however, I do personally believe they do the best they possibly can to balance the financial needs to keep the server running with allowing the players here to have an exciting and fun playing experience.
You only mention Pyro+? What about flying, Star Tools, and any of the other multitude of enhanced features we are offered? I personally enjoy these features and am willing to pay (either thru real life funds or in game dollars) as part of my playing experience.
There are many servers that are nothing like ECC - very few have a true hard core economy where the server owners actually care enough to do everything they can to keep the integrity of the server in regards to what we have earned. Even fewer servers offer the ability to still have anything you have worked hard for still be in existence years later.
My features that I have purchased and use do help me with the economy aspect of the server. I work harder in order to have features I enjoy using to help me make more money. As for it making you lazy - I do not believe their is any rule stating that you have to either purchase one single donation feature, and if you have them, I do not believe their is any rule stating that you are required to use the feature.

 

With the exception of the SG, I do not consider the hours upon hours of play time I spend mining, farming, keeping up my shop, and utilizing other hardcore economy aspects to earn my money and the ability to purchase features I enjoy and that am grateful that the server offers.
I do not consider this a pay2win server, especially since not one single purchase is required in order to play or win here. Obviously, this server and the way it is set up is not for everyone, however, I personally play here because it is by far the most trusted server I have ever invested in and is why I support it.
There are so many servers out there that offer so many different ways to play. I would feel it would not be hard to find exactly the community and server offerings you might be looking for (pay2play iyho).
I have found this here at ECC (as well as thousands of others). Perfect? No, there will always be things and players I disagree with but I find the balance here the best I have ever seen.
I also do not consider myself lazy by any stretch of the imagination - I spend a lot of my playing time earning money and feel comfortable it will not just be taken away on a whim of the server owner or other players that suggest that my features be removed because they do not want them.
I hope you find the balance you long for.
Wishing you success.

 

To restrain myself from getting into this petty argument, please do not tag me in this thread again. Thank you.

 

United. I have 2010 usd of features, with 1990 bought with in game money. That's around 14 million ecd. What about that isn't "hardcore". I actually worked for those features, and it's taken me almost 2 years of playing to get to where I am. I spend a lot of time working for my money. It's not easy. Sure, donation features make it easy. But laughingly so? No, not really. In fact, I can't snap my fingers and make money appear. I have to sg for a solid hour for 18,000, and that's with 510 usd of kits. And 20k is barely anything for the higher ranks... I mean ecolegend... 5 million o_O

 

If you want every donation feature to be cosmetics then say bye bye to ECC. It costs 1000s to run and I don't think pets and hats are the solution.

 

You'll probably find the servers you are talking about are one of two things:

• Large servers will a large playerbase, and many servers
• Small servers paying little to host their server

 

Are they as big as us with as many servers as us? Also, are they economy based?

 

Is it as fast and with multiple servers?

 

Well, they most likely never had non-cosmetic donations. They were never fully introduced.

 

The argument here at ECC is removing non cosmetic donations. They probably never had a non cosmetic donation at the server you talk about. A lot of ECC members rely on non-cosmetic donations, while the people at the other server don't. If we remove non-cosmetics, there will be a large amount of people leaving/not donating.

 

So instead of making this about features, I think what you mean to say is that kits are stupid. So this is another kit flaming thread? I don't even understand what you are trying to get at.