before you start reading this id just like to say that i know this idea has already been proposed before but i think i can go into a bit more detail.
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The main problem with sg at the moment is the dominance of the arena by users with multiple kits, a lot of the time being high ranked users aka tycoons+ this dominance doesn't really make the arena much fun... The main problem here is the terrible trio of kits that i will talk about next.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE TERRIBLE TRIO OF KITS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The terrible trio of kits consist of three main kits, these combined 99% of the time lead to victory, it consist of kit MIQ kit Spy and kit Buffer. These kits are pretty much abused but to full understand lets take a look at them in more detail.
Kit MIQ (sharp 2 kb 1 stone sword, Power 3 bow)
MIQ is probably the oldest 'OP' kit, it was increased to 20$ because of its insane power, the sword has the capability of dealing 2-5 heats in 1 hit to people in decent armour. This kit offers a ton of offensive power but is easily taken out.
Weaknesses - As miq is such a strong offensive kit decent armour is required or else you will probably get taken out in a hit or two, jumping and circling the kit user is the best way to take him out normally although if you have kit spy then waiting for the miq user to open a chest before killing them is the smartest way to go.
Kit spy(invisibility potion (3mins) and nightvision potion (nobody cares))
Kit spy is the bread and butter for the trio although by itself it is still strong. Spy users do not have to loot chests at all, they usually wear no armour and quickly grab a sword before running around, sneaking up behind people and killing them before they know who did it. Spy on its own is not amazing although it is commonly used with another offensive kit.
Weaknesses - spy is a very fragile class, if they do start attacking you make sure you turn around and quickly start swinging, always have your particles on all when in sg so you can see them, spy is an assasin, if they ruin there chance at killing you sneakily, they probably wont get you after. You need to try and hit them as much as possible as they will be wearing no armour and will die fast.
Kit buffer (strength 2 swift 2 splash healing 2 and splash regen 2 potions)
Kit buffer is probably the strongest individual kit, it is the ultimate hunting kit, the speed potion means nobody can get away and the strength potion means nobody can outrun you and you can 1 hit people.
Weaknesses - buffers only real weakness is range, you need a good bow to cut a buffer user down so they cant get to you and use their strength potion.
Combined?!?!?
When kit spy meets kit miq and buffer, you are pretty much unstoppable, you dont need armour to loot chests, you dont need to look for swords, you are fast, invisible and the miq sword plus strength potion makes you deal 'tons of damage' its stupid.
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What about all my kits? i bought them just for the trio...
Well, thats what i explained all the other kits weaknesses before, if you know somebody is using spy, you use cc, if you know somebody is using buffer, get miq for the bow etc, etc. also its a donation feature, im sure Andrew appreciates you donating to the server.
Will add more im just bored of thinking atm xd
TLDR; LIMIT KITS TO 1 PER GAME
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NickLA3107 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️
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expoldzibo BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
make it so there is a max of 2 kits. PORBLEM SOLVED
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greg45865734 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
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NickLA3107 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️
you cant give your friend spy if they dont have it? maybe the same would have to be implemented with strength potions and such, making it impossible to drink a strength or invisibility potion unless you have selected the kit that round -
I agree with nickla here. If kits are going to haunt our server, then at least limit them to 1 a game.
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Since I don't really know what the actual suggestion is here, I'm going to agree with t_bone and say it should be limited to 1 kit per SG.
My reason is the simple fact of why kits, in my opinion, ruin SG. When I first saw SG I thought "Oh boy! What fun!" Sadly, kits came out. It slowly turned a fun side server minigame with a little bit of economical influence to a frustrating, biased and un-fun event. I see plenty of Builders, our own new users, get turned off because the minigame can get very frustrating. The main problem is that in banners for this server we have "SG!!" which attracts a lot of people. Then, they figure out it is infested with overpowered kits. I think 1 kit per SG is far beyond reasonable to give them the small advantage I personally think it was originally made for.
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ElementalSway BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
I think it should be limited to 2 kits a game, not one. if you use dsg and can't use another kit that is just dumb, I usually only use either Miq or cc then use dsg if I need it. With the combination of the 3 kits above can kill a user with full iron armor with one hit. I agree it is majorly unfair.
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ElementalSway BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
True... If there was a way to ban the use of certain kits together, and allow other kits to be used together. Then that could fix this whole issue, I doubt there is a way to do that though.
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alpert3925 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
I would have agreed to limit it to 1 kit per game before i bought all mine, however there are 2 major problems i see with it.
1) why would people buy all the sg kits if you can only use 1 per game? Think about it, scavenger on its on? Thats awful. It would greatly decrease the number of donations the server gets.
2) I already paid for my kits, if this were to ever happen (which it won't, Andrew has turned it down multiple times) I would want a refund on all my kits except miq.-
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- Then don't buy scavenger. People payed for fly, which is way more expensive than a few sg kits, and they cannot use it to pvp in the nether back it would give them an unfair advantage.
- Boohoo about it. You have 0 reasoning why you would do this. So I'm simply going to assume you are doing this to show andrew "If you don't let me get one hit kills with my kits, I'll demand a refund!" It's kind of...sad.
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chocolatecheese1 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
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spy should be replaced with something else, so people dont lose out and sg becomes more fun for everyone. sg is one of the things ecc is now known for, new players almost always sg and complain about spy. Its making new players leave through frustration. How is this good for ecc?
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alpert3925 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
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People use to buy Fly and Disguise specifically to use in Pvp. Andrew pulled the plug on that, and those who bought those features had to deal with it.
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MrBojangles73 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️
How about dividing the arenas..and make some arena's that are not kit compatible..meaning kits are not allowed in some arena's and user have what they have and do the best with what u find...also have arena's for kit users that wanna battle each other...
Also make it where the non kit users can go into the kit arena's if they so choose..this will solve the whole i hate kit user conflict...if they go in there its because they chose to ..
I really think this would work...kit users would have to earn their keep this way..rather than domination map after map because all the new users dont have kits to even stand a chance etc...
This would give noobs an option of fighting non kit users or going for the gold and stepping up to the kit users room ...
It would be interesting to see a match filled with nothing more than kit users lol just imagine :)
I think the non kit users need to have a no kit allowed arena or two to show their skills on a even playing field without us kit users coming in there and makin road tar out of 10 builders lol... no sport in that i say...if ur good with ur kit visit the kit enabled arena's and prove and hone ur skills :)
Its an idea and also i think it would work.. just throwing it out there.. i believe we would see an increase in new fighters that would actually stick around long enough to join our kit user ranks :) TY for ur time and please lemme hear what u all think :)