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    Suggestion: Changing Melons back to $2 and Pumpkins back to $1

    Reason: Well, staff has been saying all kinds of ways to making money, but its getting harder and harder every time.
    I know this has been suggested a lot of times but I will keep suggesting it.
    Now, I want to tell you Staff, this is a Hardcore economy server! Not a "Your making to money with this, this is unrealistic so were nerfing it" No! Like life, things have more value in certain times of the year, Im not suggesting you should change these prices completely and forever, just come up with different prices sometimes, maybe the next month pumpkins are $2 for a week or 2? and the following month the prices just go completely down and pumpkins and melons are $0.50, this is real life economy, prices change! And it´s not even that, I mean, lets see our other options here on making money.
    PvP
    Well, PvP involves no skill at all in ecc to determine weather me or you is going to win this fight, it just involves Mcmmo skill and Money, richness, good gear, in order to achieve that good gear you need to make money and farming is one of them, so Nerfing pumpkins and melons also affect how good you are on pvp and how much you make, and sincerely I do have full prot 4 and Sharp 4 fire 2 sword, but, I can´t even pvp, while im getting 5 hearts a damage im taking 1 from my opponent, so ye, ill train, but how will I if I have no money to buy the stuff to train with? Which is also quite expensive, this is also a reason why pumpkins and melons should be raised and lowered different times.
    Mining
    Also extremely affected, if you have the right amount of money or not, Personally me, I make around 1k mining a hour with no breaks, since my mcmmo is so low and since I don´t have a good pick, because I can´t farm and make money in order to have a good pick. True, some people do make a lot of money mining, but it just isn´t my case and of many others, not only that mining is extremely boring to do, and that, yes, should be something nerfed!
    Towns/Plots
    As for making towns and selling plots is also a extremely good way of making money, and easy, I agree. But, I never took any part of that action, why? because I am a horrible builder, and I know im not the only one out there, and if any of the staff wishes to see my town or give me some help, I would be honored to accept your help.
    Xp Selling/Enchanting

    In my opinion, xp is still a good way and source of making a lot of money, even after 1.3 came out and xp prices went down like crazy. I use a blaze spawner and in 10min I get around 30 levels of exp, which I then Sell for 2k only, which is a cheap price relating to others, therefore I have more buyers and make around 12k an hour, which is pretty good and well planed if I am lucky enough to get the buyers I wish.
    When it comes to enchanting, it just doesn´t make profit, with the amount of diamonds you waste on tools and armour and with all the trys and xp wasted in order to obtain a good enchant it is not worth your time and money.
    Farming
    Nerfed, in every possible way. When pumpkins were good they got nerfed, then wheat, then Cane, now melons, farming is going down and down every single day.
    It is impossible to make good quantities of money now days, but I think we shouldn´t be able to make large amounts of money every single day, but sometimes, in order to alternate economy we should be able to farm and make a good amount of money like we did in 1.2.5
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    That is all, I hope you enjoyed reading and I would like to ask that only Staff post in this topic unless you are wishing to support it or giving feedback.
    Any questions or problems the staff/owner encounters please post below and I will try my best to answer and try to find a solution.
     
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    I agree with this
     
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    Moved to price discussions.
     
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    When pumpkins got raised to $1.25, kuke found a way using an efficiency 5, speed, and a certain angle to tear through rows upon rows of pumpkins and make ~40k an hour. If they got raised to $2.00, that would make way too much money. I do like the idea of prices changing every so often. But, this would require experimentation and might hurt the economy. It would be quite a big risk to take.

    The way I look at it is this- you have to spend money to make money. This could be investing in building a farm, purchasing fly, or purchasing an efficiency tool. Andrew's idea is to have a balanced economy and make 15k-20k an hour. With that said, someone with a 16x16 pumpkin farm will not make as much as someone with a 16x200 20 floor pumpkin farm. They will be more successful within the economy.
     
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    Thanks both of you. =)
     
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    Aren´t we simulating real life economy here? Yes, we are.
    And you are correct, but maybe price variation wouldn´t hurt anyone.
    Also Im quite certain I never spoke about changing pumpkins to $2 But melons.
    And please, also tell me how you make 20k an hour.
     
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    I think firstly that ECC is turning into Idaho, relying on one crop (Ecc melon or when the melon goes down ecc pumpkin)
    and we are turning into Nebraska, to heavily relying on farming, I do wish that people would find another way to make money, so we can avoid these blowouts every time there is a change in crop price.
     
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    Can't wait to see potato and carrot prices :/
     
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    I agree with everything that is said here, Very well written suggestion. +1
     
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    Here is how I see the whole farming issue:

    There are people out there with fancy tools and farming techniques that can make so much money in so little time that it gets farming prices reduced. On the other hand, a builder, just starting out gets some seeds and a wood hoe and starts to farm to get resident. At the current rate, it would take forever to make that 15k. Yes, there may be ways for people to make tons of money, but that is a minority of the people. Not everyone comes on the server with a 200x200 melon farm, and an Eff 5, Silk 1, Unbr 3 diamond axe. I can honestly say, if I was a builder, and had to farm for resident at the current rates, I would be bored to death.

    I know some of you mey be thinking, "Well farming is not the only way to make money on the server!" I am NOT saying that it is. People prefer different methods of making money. It's a shame how the majority of people on the server are so affected by the minority of people who have the tools, the money, or the farms.

    You may be thinking, "Mining can make as just as much or more money than farming." Well... recently that has not been the case. With the price of diamonds ranging from $30-$50 each, it is more difficult to make money mining than ever. If the mining prices were raised to compete with farming, we would not be having this suggestion.

    People want to make money. But with prices so low for everything, its getting more and more difficult.