[Suggestion]

Not needed I can tell I've made my point and I can see other SGers won't let this happen taking into account the unfairness they will he suffer with this change.

Ps. I checked your sg status (stalker status I know) but I've noticed u get alot of kills however in the games you didn't get any kills you died in the first minute or two >.> this happens consecutively in your record ... so when I said you are making this because your upset at kitters stalking u all the time I guess I was right ....

 

All 4 options in the poll says u want kits nerfed / non kitter advantage increased all ur viewpoint

 

+1

 

tldr, but +1

 

still -1

 

-1 people pay to support the server, in return they get kits. They should be able to use them, if you pay for something you want the product, not wait for it.

 

-1ing for visibility

 

this,
U know lamb chops sounds nice right?

 

Playing devils advocate: Well those games he could have been following someone else and they out skilled him or it was a 3-4 person game and the game went to death match rather fast. I personally feel that 10 seconds is not enough I think that the whole grace period time should be allotted with the exception of maybe the last 10 sec. I don't get followed (or allow myself) very often and I think kit users are not losing the ability to use their kits at all, just because you can't spam kit spy buffer right as the game starts doesn't mean you can't wait a 50 sec or whatever it is that would leave 10 sec left in grace period. Also 50 sec is much more time to gather materials for non-kit users and to be frank do you really want to just mass slaughter people who are defenseless or would you like to have at least some challenge from those your are fighting (hence they have some gear)? If you don't care fine more power to you I suppose go get your free money I will be sure to be the non-kit user that kills you and takes your stuff.

 

I am still +1 for this suggestion, but maybe it should be instead of 10 seconds after grace period ends, maybe 10-30 seconds after the game starts so that it is still grace period, but the kit users will still be sorting out their inventory and typing commands.

 

Playing Devil's advocate: Now that is the issue that everyone is upset about though, during the time they are trying to sort their inventories a non-kit user can sneak up on them and take them out before they get to use them.

 

No, grace period lasts 60 seconds. If they cannot get their kits until grace period has begun and has been going for a while (10-30 seconds) they should still have enough time (50-30 seconds) to sort out their inventory and be able to fend off anyone trying to kill them.

 

Very well, I am always ready to back the logic in my arguments ^-^ bring it on! lol

This is true however we are both up in that air when guessing what truly went on in those games both our reason can easily be the case, But applying this suggestion its more logical to assume my assumption was more accurate.

This is a valid reason and good idea However This is not what what the owner is suggesting is you re-read my converstion with the owner u will see this

-Here is what he is suggesting-

As you can see what you thought this suggestion was about is different from what the owner intended it to be.

Good for you your parkour and SG skills are to be admired ,but my pervious explanation above voids this. He wants the kits to appear after the grace is over allowing anyone to kill the kitter before the kits are spawned into the game which is a HUGE disadvantage and makes kits useless if your an early attacker also if you are targeted because your a good SGer and others know u can destroy them if you live that long.

Like the owner of this thread you are assuming kitters do not rush the center. Yes, arrogant kitters do sit at spawn and not move (no offense) because they will win either way but normal kitters do need armor or a better sword if they don't have ++ of everything. Its silly to think this will change the amount of items gathered by non-kitters before time is up compared to kitters who are also looking for items in chests too. As you can tell from the situation I laid out and the logic I presented what you say is false. Both sides cant attack and both sides can get chests both players are under the same time limitations. In short changing the times u can spawn kits in an already peaceful environment is still useless XD

I don't even know what this is .-. plz explain.

if this was a threat to find me in an SG match ill be happy to go against you, challenge accepted I would love to put you on my signature right under fav kill X) but lets settle this with intellect before we resort to in-game pvp
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I am happy to debate the firmness of my argument I hope I was able to clearify a few points for you ^-^ if you have anymore opposing veiwpoints or opinions to address ill be happy to debate them with you

hope to hear from your soon @HCPillarofFire

 

Hmm after further reading I do believe you are correct. I was under the assumption he was referring to not using kits during grace period for 10 sec. I am not for this suggestion then. Also for my last comment I was being facetious, I was saying that many kit users suck at pvp and like the free money kits offer and that I will be there to show them that it is not always about who has the most OP kit if they can't use it properly. One last tidbit about me, I don't hunt users specifically I actually avoid most users at all costs if I know I am at a disadvantage as best I can, and if I cannot then I fight until the bitter end even if that means getting 1 or 2 hits on a buffer user before they 1 hit KO me.

 

my apologies for calling you a he.

.... *sigh* I don't know why you keep thinking that there is no "viable" reason its just thinking out of the box don't focus on one aspect or cling to one sub-topic of the argument that is how u get cornered like you are now :/ any hopes to have this at all went away the second you said it will be given after grace. This simply wont happen because it is extremely unfair to the kitter to have his/her kits spawn after the grace it just makes them targets. This suggestion would stop stalking in general and focus on stalking kitters instead to kill them before they get their kits. Also even if u incorporate this before grace the kitter can just /kit when it says grace almost over anyways so either way this wont be helpful to solve this problem.

My advice it to take the game how it is and deal with it there is no way this suggestion is going to be incorporated as is.

But as the owner of the thread I wont stop positing as long as u have a rebuttal ill respect your post and allow u to defended it to the end ^-^

 

All that I can agree with. I don't like it either that has happened to me many times. I also wish there was something we could do about it. I think the no kits spawn after grace is a reasonable request , however I don't think that will help your stalking problem because I don't think anyone with kits will forget to use them ._. but I will help you if I think of a reasonable compromise ^-^

 

+1