Read my words carefully. -_-
I did not say "You do not understand"
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appleprocucling Ex-GameAdminBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium UpgradeNever said you did.... Maybe you should read my post as well, and maybe try to write 1 message instead of 4-5 short ones when quoting me.
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PhantomJedi759 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Resident ⚒️
@JazzBeam In case you didn't notice, appleprocucling has donated over $1000 to the server. You are arguing that people like him, who basically keep this server alive, are worth less than a few new players who do not donate. You also claim that appleprocucling, who has played for about a year-and-a-half (and has donated over $1000) knows less about the server than you do.
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They play SG so they can leave when someone is "OP" in the game? (Join to quit)
Hardcore economy means exactly what it sounds like. It IS like real life because well, isn't real life a hardcore economy? Look at any economy in the world. There are rich, there are poor, and there's a fight to the top. Then look at ECC. Pretty much the same.
It kind of is a reward, as players think "Why get a kit to make more money in SG when I can just kill kitters and get more?" Yes kitters can kill kitters, rewarding in more money based on logic of this thread, but it would create unnecessary money in our economy. I myself AM a kitter, and MANY times I die to non-kitters due to simple mistakes. I'm human, everyone's human, we all make mistakes. I slip up in SG, I lose my kits for the round, the player who killed me gets the kits. Shouldn't getting the kits be reward enough? Getting a test run on them before buying them? Trying them out you would see how good the kits really are, and that'd inspire someone to get them. There's no need to double reward someone, as getting those kits they may end up winning the SG anyway. Us donors work hard for our money, and the current system works well as it is.-
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appleprocucling Ex-GameAdminBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium UpgradeCould not have written it better myself...
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I meant that they play to win money. But if they see OP kit users they leave.
If I were you I would have assumed right away that was what I meant. Because it is illogical for players to join in order to leave. -
I had just explained why they are not the same. I see you disagree, but you just simply stated that you disagreed, and you didn't refute my evidence. I stated something that said there was a big difference between the real life economy and ECC.
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Many times non kit users do not pick up the reward of getting the kit user's kit.
The best way to kill a kit user is by knocking them off a high place and they fall to death or knocking them into lava or luring them into a trap and etc. At those times, you cannot pick up the items because the items perish too, with the kit user.
Defeating a kit user and making sure you can retrieve their items is much harder.
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PhantomJedi759 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Resident ⚒️Mind blowing thought: players who do not donate to the server should not be rewarded...
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May I ask, what is that evidence? Because it's just a computer game? :O Wow, didn't know that. Hate to burst any bubbles, but this server is mean't to be like real life as much as possible. Nothing is "Fair" in real life, and if this server is mean't to be like real life it is to be this way.
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Simply, non-donors should not be treated as they are "special" or "royal" just for killing someone who donated. This server is made for "Hardcore economy" which it is doing by keeping things unfair. It's life. Even though I'm a donor, when I wasn't one I agreed with this logic.
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Exactly, life is not fair in real life. Therefore, we can add something that puts targets on kit user's backs because it's not fair. Perfectly fine with that logic.
Incorrect. Hardcore economy for everyone, sure. Kits make it easier to make money. SG was originally made to add something new to ECC. I believe in the beginning and probably still now is used for something to do when you're bored. Meant for fun, SG isn't and shouldn't be a reliable source of income. It's hardcore by having high prices for everything and decently low prices for other things. Sure, you can get a Melon sword but yet you still have to grind with boredom to get lots of money. Being a hardcore economy has nothing to do with SG and kits. At all. -
Targets are ok, but rewarding a person for killing them? Even if I were to not be a donor, I wouldn't like the idea. I think as I have added all input that I feel is necessary, I will now be leaving this thread, with a -1227 noted. I will only come back if I find a need for me to do so.
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This server isn't designed to keep things unfair in its Minecraft economy. It is supposed to be fair and hardcore does not necessarily mean your opponents are absolutely overpowered and have more resources, experience, power, and etc, than you. It just means that you should expect challenges.
This server is pretty fair when you refer to the economy part, not the SG and pvp arenas. Everyone starts out with no money at all.
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Apple proculcing said "the more money you have in ECC, the more power you have." (something like that)
If that was correct about ECC, the difference between ECC and real life is that money in real life has a significantly smaller chance of guaranteeing power than money in ECC.
Many things in real life appear unfair, I understand that. But some people and institutions strive to make some things in life that are unfair, fair. But some unfair things in life cannot be changed.
By the way, I extremely despise your disdainful attitude when you said "Because it's just a computer game? :0 Wow, didn't know that." -
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Hm... in a short spam of time I have watched this thread er... escalate. I think I smell a certain smell of some smoke, a rising flame war coming up? This is not about intelligence/money/power/rubber ducks/chocolate/world domination. Just a simple suggestion. Please do not undermine someones intellect without knowing them in real life. Half of what I have been seeing as posts are little jabs at each other. If your going to post post about the suggestion!
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PhantomJedi759 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Resident ⚒️
The server is perfectly fair as-is. There is no need to change anything with the Survival Games.
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