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Poll closed Jul 19, 2015.
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  1. gcoleman118 Builder
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    Would you mind sharing your opinion for this massive downvote?
     
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    Thank you for your opinion as you're the first staff member to join the debate. I will say I agree that it would take staff time but the server could recruit a few extra staff for the forums unless the staff is getting too big.
     
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    If apples are oranges then, I'm obviously uninformed. The lower class in America has gone nowhere in 50 years, where will it go then? Figure out that analogy, and you'll understand why this can't be added.
     
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    You're making absolutely no sense. Stop using analogies that make no sense and you might actually be able to provide a compelling argument.

    The only downsides to this suggestion is the fact that it requires giving staffmembers the ability to take people's money and shift it to someone else, and the fact that it takes a lot of time to actually do. Right now the only people who can do that are phys and andrew, and I doubt they have enough time to handle it all.
     
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    I'm having a really hard time understanding this post.
     
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    Because you do not understand the analogy.
     
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    Well Knears you'd make my day if you could enlighten us.
     
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    Well, it appears kuke and _TrueStud/Goblizz don't either, so mind explaining?
     
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    I agree that it's a lot of work and obviously it's a lot of responsibility because it could be a lot of money and I would hope corrupt staff wouldn't be the worst part of attempting to implement this and if the staff is corrupt I think that it wouldn't just be this.
     
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    Opportunity makes a thief.

    Now I'm not saying staff is corrupt, not at all. But it only takes a single bad person to cause a large disaster. (just look at willclo, and that was without him having super money stealing powers)
     
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    What's the deal with willclo.....
     
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    Just take a look at the general discussion section. You'll see.
     
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    -1 for the suggestion.

    No offense intended but I hate these kind of suggestions overall. Anything to do with money shifting would have to be done through phys, who is already very busy. Also, as others have mentioned many people would feel the urge to take riskier transactions given the fact they'd be protected with a money back guarantee. Sure you can argue with the whole "It's their money they need it". Check who you're loaning to, get some feedback about them, and if on the offchance they get banned, well when they come back they owe you the money. Adding in a whole new aspect of paying players back by taking money from their account would cause so many issues such as who gets the "remaining $500 in their account" when 2 people have loans due the same day, along with the issue of paybacks when they go to appeal. How would we know how much was withdrawn? It would get far too confusing for Staff to make note and have to go through and figure out how much is paid back already and who got paid what back so far. Coming from an Admin point of view, scamming appeals are already (to the average user) difficult. There's a lot involved with them that must be done right and throwing in this extra wrench won't help make the process any easier. I hope that these thoughts enlighten you on the whole "-1 side" of this suggestion. :) and again I don't mean to offend you in anyway based on this reply, it's just my opinon. I respect yours and I hope you respect mine :)
     
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    I'm flummoxed beyond belief.

    Here's how I interpret this: Knears first is analyzing the phrase and concept that apples are not equal to oranges, and cannot equally be compared. Assuming that the "apples" are the aforementioned "lower class," then the oranges is restitution. That would mean that, since the lower class in America has gone nowhere without restitution for "50 years", then an idea for scam victims of a Minecraft server shouldn't be added.

    I tried.

    Still, to keep on topic, I think that it shouldn't be added, mainly because of the workload. If te community wants to have people organizing these, then all plus from me. But it shouldn't be server run.
     
    #56 goblizz, Jun 21, 2015
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    Yes, however the logic is flawed there because a lot of scam victims are actually rich or middle class people. For example, most of the people who invested their money with Madoff were rich.
     
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    I was scammed as a Resident, person has never returned, not everyone is rich when scammed. A lot of times it's new players, causing them to leave the server - meaning no complaints are made so they're more "hidden scams" I never understood why people scam when in all honesty they will be caught. It ruins the community.
     
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    No, I was referring to irl.
     
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    Even then, I've been scammed irl when someone attempted to steal my credit card number (while indirect, still a scam). I'm nowhere near rich.