So true sad thing is they will keep scamming unless a suggestion like this is put through there is no punishment for scammers except a temp ban. It's pretty clear why they keep doing it because they know they will always get away with it.
Where are you guys making this stuff up? Of course we need temp bans. A perma ban is a last resort. Imagine for a second you were perma banned. Truly imagine it. You would never, ever, ever, again, in your lifetime, get on ECC, you'd never see any of your ECC friends again. Your donations would never been seen again. All your work, everything you tried to achieve would die, and never happen. I agree we need to make longer temp bans come sooner, but don't get all worked up about it.
They don't even have to "always" get away with it. the just need to get away with it once in a while. Maybe someone doesn't collect enough proper evidence? boom, no punishment. It's like a roll of the dice for them with no real punishment other than a short temp ban. If the punishment fit the crime then they might think twice about it. If they get caught and there is a chance they could LOSE money instead of MAKE money then maybe they wouldn't do it. As it stands now there are very few negative consequences. Not to mention that even if they are caught and convicted, you can't even talk about it in a global channel.
Who said we dont need temp bans we are saying they need another punishment right now the temp bans are so weak no one cares they just do something else in the mean time while they wait it out no one ever said "we dont need temp bans" you clearly need to learn how to read better.
I know right it is just a sad system in place right now. There is just an insane amount of scam going on right now i just wish they would try some new things to lessen it.
You saying that temp bans aren't enough. I'm saying that they are, but these scam fines can help. As for insulting me, I'd rather prefer you not do that in suggestion threads. I can read perfectly fine.
So far temp bans have not been working people get temp banned and do the same scam again they clearly need to add another punishment. Also sorry if i offended you I just really want scamming to stop so I am defensive about it.
How can temp bans not work? If you get temp banned, your banned. But true, they need longer ones sooner. And as for being defensive, I learned that first hand And I can understand, on certain topics I'm the same way.
All im saying about temp bans is there is no results with it. When someone is temp banned they scam again that is what i mean temp bans aren't enough on there own its as simple as that. They need another punishment like fining the scammer.
This I entirely disagree with. We still want people to have a second chance, not to drown them in debt. If I scam your melonsword, I'll be stuck in debt for ages. Increased fines is a ton ton, incredible ton better in my mind.
No no no, no percentage. If I only scammed a thousand dollars, your not going to be happy if I got fined 200 bucks. Set fines are better all around.
I don't care all to much about set fines or percentage what i care about is that a fining system gets added to the server that's all i care about. lets not argue about the details right now what we need is the fining system first.
If someone is accused and punished for scamming, than the forum thread is going to exist for as long as anyone could possibly care. A damage in reputation is enough to deter any business partner that does any kind of legitimate research on the people they throw money at, and frankly that's what's needed. Nothing more, nothing less.
