[Suggestion] Scam fine

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  1. dork1877

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    why does the amount matter?
    the amount should be based on a percentage of the amount being scammed.

    go ahead


    make up a number you feel comfortable with


    its better than nothing, which is where we are at now and why this suggestion was made
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    No, just no. If you want a fully thought out suggestion, make them up.

    If I scam so much, then I have no second chance. If I'm charged 50% of a melonsword, I might as well quit the server. We still want to give second chances.

    Come up with a number, otherwise I still stand against this.
     
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    Not sure exactly what you mean but lets say someone scams a user (scammer: ill buy you a gift card for 50k. buyer: ok deal.) now in this deal the scammer does not buy the gift card so he is banned to return to the server he has to pay back what he got for the gift card (50k) and lose 10k on top of that but the 10k is just gone not given to the person who got scammed hope this helps.
     
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    well considering the amount of scamming i see going on and the amount of chances people are getting, maybe we should be moving more towards that end of the spectrum.

    I'm not saying zero second chances, i never have. but i firmly believe that the staff is being extremely too lenient in cases of scamming.

    Jason, why must you commit the slippery slope fallacy in nearly every discussion?
     
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    have fun standing there on your island of one, refusing to think outside the tiny little box you have created for yourself
     
  6. KainHighwind16

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    Well if i was going to do a % it would be 20%
     
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    You continually, go out of your way to insult me, ignoring this post.


    Okay, 20% sounds reasonable.

    So if I scam 1k, I lose $200. Sounds small, but if I scam $300,000, I lose $60,000. Which is a nice hit. With an easy percentage like 20%, I can agree with this suggestion.

    Another way of doing it might be to have a base fine, and increase it.

    For example:

    1k

    2k

    5k

    10k

    20k

    And of course, these fines would be stacked on top of temp bans and warnings.
     
  8. KainHighwind16

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    I like that idea of fines growing after each scam i do believe in second chances i just get mad on the fourth and more and your idea starts to hurt the scammer around the fourth scam.
     
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    Personally, I think it works a lot better then a percent. I can still scam, and it won't hurt me much.

    But with higher and higher scams, it's harder, and hurts more, the more you do it.

    But we still have the issue that, maybe I don't care about scams, I'll scam you anyway. I don't actually need money in my balance for a scam. I could scam you if I had $0.
     
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    Well there has to be a way of collecting like after they are un banned they have 1 week to have the money in their bal if they dont then they are banned again. Maybe give them a 3 day temp ban if they don't have the funds ready?
     
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    Sounds good to me. If you get fined 20k and don't have it, it would only be fair to give the person time to get the money.
     
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    Bump

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    I support this idea 100%
     
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    [:D]Wait, we haven't gotten the input of the affected party! Scammers, what do you think?[/:D]
     
    #55 pokeboy24, Aug 22, 2013
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    I totally want to tag some people right now but I'm not going to
    >.<

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    Yes please have this is some way. I see to many people lose interest or leave ECC because of being scammed and we just leave them out to dry. We need to be more heavy on scammers and not the victim of the scam.

    +1

    Bump.
     
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    amen
     
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    Ikr, it kind if pisses me off, although I haven't been affected/scammed it's just sad.
     
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    the miscarriage of justice in a lot of these cases really makes me angry and spurs me to make these kinds of suggestions.
    I don't understand why warning our fellow users would itself warrant a warning.

    It's not libel or slander if its true. If you dont want to be labelled a scammer... THEN DONT SCAM

    Don't get all butthurt because people get mad at you for scamming.