I love the old shop design from what iti just posted.
I am worried about how the current owners feel about either being compensated or moved into a certain shop,

 

Whatever we do, please let it be known that the market is always up for change. I understand that people have paid a lot for their shops, but is it really fair to tailor to those few people just because they decided to spend a helluva lot on their shops? I mean sure, if they have to get a smaller place do something to compensate them. It's supposed to be a market, it's supposed to change.

The biggest problem I see is how easily the prime shops can dominate the market, and it's silly. Shops shouldn't be guaranteed spaces, no matter how much they cost. The market should be a risk, not a guaranteed spot once you fork over 3 million.

 

I bought a 2nd row for 3million and struggled to get 1.4 when I sold it. There is some risk in the market :p (Or my timing is just awful!)

 

Dewsy can't economy. :p

 

Noooob

 

Player X paid 3mil to get a prime shop for a competitive advantage. Now they move his shop in a different row. I'm sure this will cause massive complaining.

 

@UnitedStates2002 So?, Its a game.

 

Why not remove all kits?

 

@UnitedStates2002 People have paid Real life money for them, that's why. Where as, people have paid in-game money for spawnshops.

 

"So? its a game."

 

And people have worked very hard to buy those spawn shops. If I were them I'd feel ripped off.

 

It's a game and people care about it. It's the peoples care and interest that keeps them here and keeps the server up. Don't infuriate them and make them leave, that's never a good idea.

My point is we can change the market, but we can't totally decrease the value of their shops. When we changed the market last, all the shops were still represented with equal value to what they had before.

 

Agreed.

 

+1, and I would love to help if possible :D

 

+1

However, I'd be worried about my shop losing value/placement of it (Last row)

 

There definitely needs a big rethink on the whole market situation, 12 months ago the markets were rammed full and you could make so much money from them if you looked after your shop, now 12 months on, its hard to even make your rent back never mind profit!

i think there has to be some sort of implication of rules for the market though! if we're going to reduce the amount of shops available i think everyone who currently owns a shop should have like 3 weeks to say wether or not they want a shop at the new market, if within 3 weeks they haven't agreed then tough! that market goes live to anyone else on the server!

i also somewhat agree about people spending $3mill+ on current shops but the majority of those people only pay their rent so they don't loose their shop and hope to sell it on for a profit one day and that they will be so angry if they loose their shop to a new fresh market etc. However, on the other hand, i definitely think that if we ever do redesign the market we need to have everything set up accordingly, i.e. if you own a shop on row 1 you pay $50k a week, row 2 $30k a week row 3 $10k a week etc etc. This would then make it fairer for the community, if you want a front row shop you'll have to keep it stocked up to make your money back, if not, you loose loads of money and end up giving up your shop to someone else!

either that or some form of implicating a rule that states that you have to keep your shop restocked or you could be asked to vacate your shop, this will stop rich people buying up all the shops and not selling anything and ruining the whole experience again!

any thoughts on my post? please let me know! :)

also, i definitely think that we need to get people actually going into a creative world and coming up with some cool designs and showing them to everyone, rather then just saying you'd like to help, actually show us your best design and get the creative juices flowing!!!

 

I really think the progressive rent is necessary. So many people have prime shops, yet their shops are useless and a waste of space to the rest of the server. Get good shop owners in there and make them beneficial for everyone.

The market wasn't created so people could "show off" their wealth with a shop. It's so people can trade, and our economy can grow. It seems the shops that are intended for that purpose aren't all being used that way.

 

I agree with this completely. We need to charge progressively so we can create a more competitive market and so that if you cant make a profitable shop, it'll change hands to someone else who can. :)

There are many shops, even some prime ones, whose owners haven't stocked in ages and it kinda ruins the market. Shops are supposed to be there to contribute to the economy, not be there as a status symbol.

 

me and @enuff_klasik are just in the process of coming up with 3-4 designs for the new market to see what peoples opinions are :)

 

What we have isn't even a market... It's 4 paths of half filled shops. It's to proportional even though I usually prefer that for most things, I don't for the market