1. DonaldTrump9 Former President of ECC
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    Survival Games has been pretty much the same for a long time, and it really needs some improvements to make it better for everyone! Here are some ideas for a new SG Update, please read them all!

    SG Boosters
    When someone buys and activates an SG Booster, all winnings in SG get doubled! That means every kill is now $600, and when you win you get double the money. An SG Booster can be purchased with USD and will last for a certain amount of hours. It will boost all SG Lobbies. There should also be Survival Games Saturday, where winning games gets you 25% more money! This would make a great addition to ECC.

    Spectating in SG Games

    Right-click a sign that is [Ingame] to spectate the game!

    Voting For Maps + More Maps
    When you join an SG that is Waiting, you are taken to a small lobby area where you can /vote for a map. There are 4 available maps chosen randomly to be voted for. The one with the most votes gets loaded when the game is Starting. There should also be some more popular SG maps added, so there is more than 4 maps to choose from! The more maps, the better SG will be!

    Nerfed SG Kits
    The SG Kits are way too OP, and I think everyone can agree with that. There is a lobby full of new people and people who want to play for fun, and then someone kits and has invisibility and overpowered weapons, and wins the game again. The kits should be less overpowered, as they are too much of an advantage in the game and its nearly impossible to kill a kitter. Sure, there is a 50% chance of a "kit-free" game, but the kits are still to overpowered and they should be changed. This would make the game better for new players and more enjoyable, because everyone has a better chance! There should also be small kits you can buy with ECD, that give you a few items.

    Survival Games Revival
    When you get killed in SG, you have a 10% chance of reviving. When a player gets killed and revived, they spawn back in the middle of the map and keep playing. The player loses all of their items, but gets a second shot. You can purchase an SG Feature that boosts your chance of revival up to 20% on the ECC Shop. Players do not revive if the game is in a final deathmatch, and only one player can revive at most in a game. If you revive and win the game. you get extra money!

    Deathmatches
    Deathmatches in ECC need a lot of improvement. Here is an idea of what they should look like:
    When there are 3 people left, the deathmatch countdown begins. The countdown is 30 seconds instead of 10, which gives you more time to prepare.
    There is a border/barrier around the spawn so people cannot run away from the deathmatch, which makes it shorter. When someone gets killed in a deathmatch, it keeps going until one player is left. That means the timer doesn't start again.
    You also do not lose hunger when you are waiting for a deathmatch. This was originally added to prevent people from running from spawn, but this shouldn't be a problem if we add a border.

    SG is pretty dead. I think a new update like this would make it more exciting and fun to play, and bring it back to life! More people would play it and games would be more intense.
     
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    -1 plus for more sg maps they have already tried that and sg is kind of dead
     
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    Let's be honest, SG is beyond repair at this point. Only thing I'd see being relevant or not futile is rotating maps.
     
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    Ghosting is the problem.
    Also, -10.
     
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  5. DonaldTrump9 Former President of ECC
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    sg is done we have bigger issues to deal with.-1
     
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    Complicating SG isn't the solution. A lobby won't fix shit (map voting will just cost loads of time to code), neither will revival. The deathmatch will only be more frustrating. (IMO, it shouldn't TP you at all. Because teleporting screws with clients hard. Anyone with a bit of a crappy computer/internet is screwed when he gets TPed. Between world not loading, freezing, and random network congestion, it's pretty bad.)

    spectating in the plugin is broken (very very old mechanics) and updating it is a painful process.

    It isn't. Spectator mode exists for that purpose.


    Map voting as well. It won't do shit.



    The ONLY thing that will fix SG is complete removal of kits.

    Without that, SG will NEVER be a big thing again. Kits ruin gameplay completely.
     
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    Alright, since you seem to want me to, I'll go through your ideas 1 by 1.

    SG already makes 20k an hour, at a minimum. If you're with a good team, it can make even more than that. @TheZombieMuffin can vouch that one day we made around 40k in a single hour combined from SG. Imagine that doubled.

    Ghosting is a problem with projectiles and fights; it would require some sort of code to implement this such that you won't interfere with anything as a spectator. Quite a bit of work to tweak and make work properly so nothing's broken.

    Knowing the ECC SG community and their decisions over the past few years, adding in voting for maps won't help much. SG2, 3, and 4 will still be picked the most, as they always have. I agree with rotating the maps, but adding a lobby is step that ECC really doesn't need. You have the auto-updating SG board with 4 games; it's not like it's a massive server that has 10-15 games going at any given time.

    Kits have already been nerfed to hell and back. First it was adjusting buffer's strength pot, then the 1/8th no-kit, then the 1/4th no kit, then the 1/2 no kit, then the freemium kits. Literally, the next nerf makes them useless. I used to agree with nerfing kits, don't get me wrong, but now it's gotten as far as it needs to go.

    ECC doesn't have games big enough anymore to make reviving worth it. 2 years ago you could have made a claim for it when there were 18-24 person games in 3 arenas at once, but not with 2-3 people in one arena only.

    Deathmatch is fine as it is really, you /could/ implement this but not sure if it's really necessary.
     
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    In my opinion just change the maps or add more arenas
     
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    I meant you could go on a skype call with someone and follow people around and tell them what they have and there location.
     
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    That's not "ghosting", though.. I mean, it's possible it's called ghosting on some servers nowadays. But when I last played SG "ghosting" was either your character's position being out of sync (you're moving, but other people see your character standing still, but can't hurt you) or you're spectating and you could get hit by arrows. (Where the "ghosting" part is purposefully blocking arrows while invisible). This last part gets fixed by spectator mode.
     
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