What is someone is wrongly accused? the damage would have already been done.

If someone has [scammer] as there tag it would make trading anything impossible and cause them to quit even if they had good intentions of changing there ways.

 

Awesome idea i love it so i don't get scammed by people like leeduncan when i didn't even know he scammed several people he told me he never scammed anyone and that title would prevent scams.

 

This is a good idea i think. Were gonna have negative ranks too lol!!

 

Instead of a rank, what about a "Wall of Shame" in spawn somewhere? That way someone getting ready to make a deal with someone could check the "Wall" to make sure his/her potential partner isn't on it.

Of course, I'm not sure who has permissions for modifying anything is Spawn, so...

 

Rock this is a great idea BUT! instead of being for a set amount of time it should be until they pay their loan back!

 

Wouldn't work the same as not many people check spawn, so would defeat the point!

 

+1 this will be a great idea

 

+1

 

Heck ya! This would allow those nasty, rude, and disrespectful scammers to be PUBLICLY SHAMED!!!!! :laugh:

 

I don't really like this idea. I'd prefer to be perm banned than be given the tag "[Scammer]" for a week.

Even if someone is banned for scamming, there is a huge number of factors - was somebody else on their account? Sure, it's their responsibility to keep the account safe - but even after they are unbanned, they will be unable to even do anything on the server, seeing as it is an economy server. Even if it's not permanent, I'm not sure I would even play had I been given a rank like that, not until it goes away that is. It's almost worse than being banned because of the following reason.

It is bound to cause people to bully others who have the rank - a rank of shame is the perfect chance for people to laugh at them and bully them for something that could have been an accident. (Like a sibling doing it on their account.) There does not need to be a rank of shame, it just promotes the idea of someone bullying them and continuing to call them a scammer, just because they technically were made one by the staff - it really does give an excuse for abuse. When someone calls you greedy, it may be true, and they may not mean it offensively, it may just be the only term for it they can think of, but it's name calling because of the way it's used by the majority. Pretty much the same way, being called a scammer is the same thing, but this is worse. You cannot even talk anymore without being called one by the staff and would be seen by users as someone they might just think of as an idiot for the rest of their time on the server, ruining their entire reputation on the server for good, which is far worse than being banned.

It's like Brycey - he is someone who had been bullied and bullied even after he "changed his ways" being called a scammer when the reality is he was past that and the things he did wrong after were different - giving someone a rank for it just makes it more memorable and causes more abuse like what happened to Brycey. This is not needed.


Instead of causing tons of abuse to users who do one little thing wrong, or maybe nothing at all, (siblings on account, etc.) why don't users just be more careful when they trade and check the users history? It's extremely rare a high ranked user who has never scammed before will scam and almost completely safe - in those off occasions it happens, there is no need to have the staff publicly humiliate them. They learned their lesson already.

 

So it isn't a great idea now? It only will be a great idea in the future?

Interesting...

 

In totally agree because I am not allowed to play mc untill Sunday at which time I have 1 week to earn 230k or I will get banned. (I made like 70k but my little brother (8) got on my account and accidentally Baught a lot of useless stuff and lost most of it... I would rather quit then have the word scammer by my name beacause I can't make 230k in 1 week because I can only play 1 or two hours a day.... (Sorry for bad grammar/spelling I am on an iPad which spell check sucks xD. Oh and any ideas to make money?

 

Your spelling is good compared to most people on these forums.

z.z

 

Thanks ant :D

 

..no, please. I do see the reasoning behind it, but it would not take long for it to turn into a giant mess. And believe me, I really do see the reasoning and purpose behind the idea, but... no, I'm sorry. :/

I see it turning into a major version of how jailing used to be. Different, but similar and far worse outcome(s).

D0rc also used a great example: Brycey. Despite being a scammer long ago, people even now will sometimes pick on him for it. He has changed, far as (many, not all) others and I myself have seen. If he had been given that 1-week [Scammer] tag, or for longer, he would never again be able to trade. People would remember. If he could? It would be brand new users only, or those forgiving (rare on the internet)... New users don't have much for trading/buying/sell compared to an older user. And even still, users who knew Brycey as a scammer before will publicly state, "oh, hey, ___, trading with Brycey is a bad idea because HE IS A HUGE SCAMMAR!!?1111!!!1!!11" New users will probably believe those people more than Brycey.
(Brycey was used as an example.. I hope this still doesn't happen. :/)

As well, it is really hard checking to see if someone has really scammed. It is almost always Andrew who has to check logs, look at everything, then decide if it was really a scam or not. That is just for the major ones that count. Minor scams? Usually a one-time thing, and really do not deserve a [Scammer] tag.

Anyway, I do not think that eve GAs have access to command or chat logs - let alone the command(s) or power to change only a top, visible rank on a user. That would require a lot of trust... Because, last I knew at least, giving some any power over rank changing required command(s) or access to things that would allow you to change any rank, on anyone lower than your rank. Imagine the abuse that could and would happen if that power was given. :/

 

Rock did say that only a 3rd major offense is permanent, so if they had any intention of changing there ways, they would have done it before even the 2nd major offense.
Very great idea Rock :D
+100

 

Even having the [scammer] tag for one day or a week would ruin your entire reputation and experience on ecc.