[Suggestion] Make all forum warnings publicly visible.

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  1. Revanrose6

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    As I said, the publicly written warnings are just like our global warnings. In comparison when we kick a person which is essentially what the official warnings are, we don't do that publicly.
     
  2. dork1877

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    you are a criminal justice major and you should know this.
    in order for rules to effective they have to be enforced consistently and without prejudice.
    I don't see that happening lately
     
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    they arent publicly announced kicks, but they are still public knowledge for those still in the channel, right?
     
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    I'm not talking about channel kicks, I mean kicks from the server.
     
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    We see those as well don't we? They aren't called kicks but users can see the user has "left the server"
     
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    this discussion of kicks is straying from the point of the post.
     
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    I disagree. These are actions that moderators take while doing their job that are not open to the public. In fact the majority of our actions are not public knowledge. Why should the forum system be any different. I just don't see why we should publicly air another person's wrong-doings. Just because its on the forum does not make the issue any less between staff and that person. The forum is an extension of the server and I personally feel that it is the right thing to do as we are currently handling it.

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    Revan,
    Are warning given publicly in the complaints and appeals threads?
     
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    Yes, those are given only when we do not issue an official warning to the player.
     
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    Well I can find numerous examples where an official warning is said to be given to a user. Should I?

    i'm not trying to play gotcha here. i'm trying to make a point.
    If you (the collective you) are going to issue warnings publicly then issue them publicly for all infractions. Not just a select few.
     
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    Well I will consider your suggestion, but, the issue here is that staff discretion plays a role in that type of thing. We are given discretion on a lot of stuff, that is one of them. The only way that is going to change is if Sky or Andrew decide that "Xyz is exactly how we are going to hand forum issues." Then ofc, we will all have to conform to that.
     
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    I understand that. hence the reason for my suggestion. I think there should be uniformity in the issuing and notification of warnings.

    I see UserX commenting needlessly and endlessly in threads that have nothing to do with UserX, UserX Minimods constantly in threads he should not. She/He is issued no warnings from an outsiders perspective, he/she is issued no forum ban (obviously) because he/she keeps making unnecessary posts/comments.

    What is an non-staff user to think? Its not ok for ME to do that, but its ok for UserX to? That seems a bit unfair doesn't it?
     
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    Just like real life, police release data saying "The criminal is in custody" or "currently being prosecuted." If they said nothing, we would start to doubt the police ability and more people would take risks. It's the same here- if the users have no idea that the user has received consequences. They may try these things and people would start to doubt the staff ability to be able to handle issues if there is no actual proof. For another real life analogy, when Bin Laden was killed, people needed to see pictures or they wouldn't believe that it actually happened.
    Also, a relevant quote from kuke:
     
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    Thanks for the quote Hare
     
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    Shouldnt forums bans etc. Be private between the user and staff members ? All im saying.
     
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    bans can and should be
    warnings should be public for the reason Agent Hare quoted from kuke
     
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    the post was edited and disappeared because it was totally not needed and totally not on-subject
     
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