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    Suggestion: Making the empty SG board in the Legacy World into a HG board.

    Reason: I believe, since now there is an empty SG board in the Legacy world, that we could place 2-4 maps in the Legacy world as Hunger Games. HG would not allow the use of any kits that provide anything other than food and basic supplies, so no Miq, CC, Buffer, Spy, any of those. Offer less of a profit for kills and winning in HG, so there is more benefits to playing in SG. The reason I am making this suggestion is that I, and alot of other players like playing SG, but is made miserable by people that have the money to spend to be better than 95% of the competition. I suggest adding only 2 maps that the community votes on, that way there are less chances to play HG and will still draw some people to play SG, but the people that want to play without fear of an invisible person killing them in one hit would be more drawn to this. I know every single person that has more than one kit will be first on the reins against this, but every other user I believe will not oppose. This will also give incentive for players to buy kits and move to SG, since the payout could be 100% or more of that in HG.

    Any Other Information: Anybody with kits that has to say that they paid to be better than the competition, I don't want to hear your argument, it is the same every time and nobody wants to hear it again, because honestly, nobody but other kit users will care. Thank you.

    EDIT: I do have a kit, it was the first feature i bought, i dont use it anymore because just using it in a game is a waste because people always over power me, in the last 2 weeks that ive tried to play sg games i have been killed by miq, buffer, or spy, or a combination of 2 or all 3, it just makes me not want to play sg or buy kits because i dont feel good enough to get those kits and still win. Having a vanilla version would give people the confidence to buy kits and compete in SG.

    EDIT2: Current Ideas being tossed around, payment for this SG will be either very low or none at all. The low payment that i offered was 25 dollars per kill, and 20 or lower per person in the game if you win. Revan suggested no money for killing, and little to no money for winning.
     
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    Yes. This has been suggested many times before, even by staff members themselves.
    The only reason I think it hasn't been implemented is because people who have kits post their bias opinions.

    I personally can't stand kits. It's what makes the sg pay-to-win. The only reason I own one is because you really can't win against other kitters without one yourself.

    Giving new players a chance to avoid these kits would convince them to stay, because I have heard many builders and residents leave because of them. Therefore, our population of people would grow.

    I see no downside in this.
     
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    I prefer to fight where everyone has an equal chance to find goods. +1 for bare bones arena's.
     
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    People keep on and keep on suggesting this. I keep on and keep on talking to people about why i thin k this isnt a good idea. I REALLY, really dont want this to happen. All of the people with no kits are my money -- i get 100 bucks a pop on them, and i get about 600 per game off of that, PLUS, when i win, i get 3-4.4k. So, if this is added to the game, there goes all of my monies. Now im left with tons of kits, but against kit users. Basically, if these maps were implemented, SG wouldnt be watered down at all (so there would only be kitters and no regular).

    Please, i spent $150+ on kits to win, to get money. That's my main way of getting an income -- and anyways, if these maps were added, that 150 i spent would be worthless
     
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    This isn't a pay to win server, so stop treating it like one.
     
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    thats exactly like pvp, you spend money to get your stats up faster, and you go in there and still fight people as good, if not better than you. thats like a builder going into pvp with full prot 4 and max pvp sword/axe with no mcmmo stats going against someone with max mcmmo stats, it just isnt fair. and i find it sad that you make your money ONLY because people dont have the money to compete with you. let people of the same skill level and playing field play with each other, Vanilla vs. Vanilla, Kits vs kits. because now all sg is, is kits vs kits with extra chance for money for them thrown in, its not even remotely fair.
     
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    Well said.
     
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    So basically, off of what your telling me, you could think of it this way. When i play sg, lest say i have a 5:1 chance of winning. 5 being me, and 1 being some one with no kits. I buy kits to get a ratio like this. Now lets say your idea comes along. The people with no kits now have a 1:1 chance of winning. Great! No harm done! Or is there? Now i have a 5:5 chance of winning. So, if you really think about it, my kits now have absolutely no advantage because everyone else has them.
     
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    See here's the thing, games where kits aren't used have less of a payout, because its not as difficult to kill another person. Games that do have kits have a higher payout, so yes, you have an equal chance of winning, but you get more rewarded for winning and getting kills. and still, you have every single kit that is worth a damn to use in sg, theres not many people that could still compete with you even if they have kits. I use my kits in games and STILL get wrecked by people like you. so I dont see why youre so angry about this suggestion, you would actually be making more money but your odds would be more like 2:1 or 3:1.
     
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    My kits worthless. My money income crushed. Not just mine, all kitters. My opinions are not biased the least bit. It is a true fact that the chance of people winning from a kit would go down because of this.
     
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    Hmmm... im really not angry. It may seem like it, but im not. I need to use more happy faces!!!!! :D

    Im just stating what i think.
     
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    That is such a selfish thing to say, you have the money so you get to have all of the fun you want, while other people less fortunate cant. That's sad, please refrain from posting in my thread again.
     
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    Yes, i see how that could be thought of as selfish. I worded that wrong. Please edit that out, i will edit mine out, and i will no longer reply. Sorry to get you very upset! D:

    You, and other eccers, probably think of me as a mean rich kit who only cares about himself. I can assure you that i am DEFINATLY not like that, i just worded it wrong. I got a slight bit defencive because all i see is my bday money, cristmas money, and allowance going to waste. I am sorry to those who i offended.
     
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    No, I was just joking with you. :)

    I actually kind of agree with your argument. I think we should have another sg in legacy, but just make it very unrewarding as an incentive to play the other one in rising.

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    Nobody is saying people without kits won't play sg anymore. You will still have an advantage.
    I'm 100% certain that if you did not own any kits, you wouldn't have the same opinion, therefore making your opinion biased.
    By the way, kits aren't a 5:1 ratio. It's more like a 10:1. If you want me to keep track of whether kitters or non kitters win over the course of 100 games, I will.
     
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    I'm deleting all posts that are off topic/flaming/insulting. This does not need to be here and this is not something that should be coming up in a suggestion thread. Do not continue with the flaming.
     
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    Ever hear the saying the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? Well that. Besides I would really love to have this added, however I highly doubt it will due to decreased donations for the server. How about this though what if you had to pay money to get into the arena with no kits sort of like the aether and nether with donations or IGM.
     
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    The reason it wont decrease the amount of donations is because the payout will be much less than the games with kits, it will give people incentive to buy kits and go play the other version for higher payout.
     
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    The reason people buy kits is to have a unfair advantage. Do you think they will buy the same amount of kits if that unfair advantage is not nearly the size or severity of what it was before.
     
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