[Suggestion] Hacking

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  1. Vintage_Gamer

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    The solution is not to allow them back on the server. Period.
     
  2. AdmiralD

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    Unless I remember wrong, that is the way it used to be for X-ray when I first joined the server. Banned - Period! Somewhere along the way almost everyone who had ever been banned seemed to just start showing up on the server again and it has not been the same since. I sometimes wonder just how many of us playing do not hack or cheat.
    Hardcore economy - now defined as - do not get caught cheating or hacking.
    I am personally very proud of the fact that I have earned every dollar here legitimately, however, it sure does not seem fair the amount of work I put in when it would be so much easier to just "steal" the money and do it in probably half the time and with half the effort it has taken me to succeed.
     
  3. stoler202

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    Our current hacker catching system:
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    As opposed to our chat rules (heheh, @Gernen)
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    Agreed. Permanent ban (or IP-ban) is the only solution against hackers (including the first-time hackers)
     
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    I feel as though if you hack in sg take away sg perms for that person they should now need to find another way to make money because its not fair to other users who are trying to make a living on ecc and hackers constantly cheating.
     
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    While I agree with you, it is clear that hacking is a huge part of our "hardcore economy" at this time.
    Also, if you take the hackers away from SG, how much can they earn cheating in mining, farming, or fishing? Perhaps the server realizes this is the best way to control inflation. Us mere mortals will perhaps never know :p
     
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    2 week tempban for hacking this will wipe inventory and enderchest which is good also sg ban for 1 month if caught hacking in sg nothing can be permanent
     
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    Agreed. Harsher punishment will be given to them if the users are caught having these illegaly-earned advantages
     
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    Bumping for relevancy.
     
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    We usually wipe balances or issue large fines when handling hacking appeals - where else is there to go with this?
     
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    Issuing PermaBana off the drop of a hat will cause more problems than it solves.
     
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    This should be locked considering they wipe bal's now... Not quite sure why you bumped it
     
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    Because I think our policies should be transparent? I still don't ever recall this being publicly mentioned. If you could provide proof of this, that would be great, and we'll gladly lock it. Until then, it will remain open.
     
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    If you could find a recent hacking appeal where someone's bal wasn't cleared/user wasn't treated with a much harsher punishment, that's be great, until then I'll ignore what you just said. Why does everything need to be a public announcement? That's a pretty bad excuse... Not everythig is publicly announced, just thought you picked up on it like the rest of us...
     
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    I don't recall us publicly having a list of punishments/tempbans for anything - and fail to see why this would be different.

    I'll be locking this as it has been added.
     
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