[Suggestion] Fixing diamond issues! EdgeZhero

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Edgezhero, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. glockog

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    Well you asked me to take a look here and I have, and I must say that i'm totally against this idea. I'm not going to make a ton of reasons why, but let me just say that in my own opinion, we play on a hardcore economy server.. when the value of things sky rocket or plummet, we can't run to the owner to make changes in everything so that it goes back to "normal". Unstable economies sounds like a good time to me!

    Oh and i'm a firm believer in NOT taking away from what people paid real money for. If we're going to add something fine, but to make it cost me diamonds and stuff after i've already paid $100 to have the ability to repair my items just doesn't seem fair to me.

    Good post though :D
     
  2. Edgezhero

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    I've already addressed the issue on how charging diamonds for a repair would affect a person who has repairs. If you think about it, adding the cost of diamonds to the repair allows you to charge more for your repairs. Thus, you would be adding more profit to those who have repairs rather than taking from them. Please read the edited part of my thread, where I go into more detail about it.

    And I would prefer you give your honest opinion rather than try to make me feel better XD So thank you.

    Added 30 min later:

    Also, if we were to refer to how economy works, then yes, economies do go unstable at times, but why does that mean we don't do anything to fix it?
    Just because something is hard to do, doesn't mean we leave it alone till someone decides to do something about it. How do you think fish prices were raised and turned into a means of making money? By my friend orkin posting a reasonable problem that could be fixed, making the economy system have another input into the system, causing people to have more ways to make money. Changing repairs would not be much different. Yes it would change the way repairs work, but people will find their own methods to turning it into a profit, as well as using the one I detailed in my own post :p
     
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    Economy is about the efficient use of scarce resources... Good idea, but needs refining.
     
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    I like where you going with this, but what if someone had a monopoly on Diamonds, say someone like @lnspecthergadget does. What would happen if He decided to sell his E-Repairs for 2k, maybe even 3k?? People may not like it, but there wouldn't be anything that they could do about it! I like this suggestion, and I do support it, but just like everything else, it's going to have some criticism.
     
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    Valid point, +1.

    Then the same people who were for this would complain the price of e-repairs is too high!
     
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    Then would not the demands of the public force prices to go down? If no one is willing to pay a certain price, then no one is willing to sell for that either, cause they will not be able to sell. So like I have stated in my original post, this will never happen. EVER
     
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    You don't get the point of a monopoly. If someone has complete control of the diamond market then they can charge what they like. People will pay that because they need repairs and as more diamonds are taken out of circulation the demand will go up even more and if the price goes up too much it could lead to a recession.

    It would lead to a recession because everyone if paying a lot for repairs so farming and mining profits reduce and possibly to the point where it wouldn't be worth farming or mining due to the price of repairs.
     
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    lol u are still missing the point, monopolization is impossible, the lnspect is not going to be able to charge 2-3k for repairs simply because people wont want to pay it. If people wont pay it, he has to lower his price, and he wont be the only one with diamonds. No one person can have all the diamonds, and even if someone hoards them, there will always be a limit to how much someone can charge players for repairs. At some point the person is going to say "nope" and go mining for diamonds. And even if someone managed to get ALL the diamonds, then they have had to have invested a good amount of money into that, meaning that money went somewhere. Where you ask? the other people in the server, meaning that the money for repair costs will circulate back to the user as a form of profit to both participants.

    Regardless of how good a player is, he/she cannot monopolize anything in this server mainly due to the fact that we are all too hard headed to pay something even if the ratio is correct. We just simply have a limit to which we wont agree to any other terms XD Which is why monopolization is impossible.
     
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    If someone really wanted to they could monopolize diamonds they could, they wouldn't need too own every diamond. To monopolize the diamond market they would lose money to start with but once they had a monopoly they could charge 200-300 per diamond. The prices wouldn't go up to 2-3k.
    Inspect may already be activating his monopoly plan.
    1. Find or buy lots of diamonds at normal price or high prices.
    3. Lower the price, to get rid of competitors. Now has 90% market share.
    4. In-cress the price.

    Coles in Australia is doing exactly the same thing but with milk and bread.
     
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    This is a contradiction, you say that towns that provide free e-repair are free to do so, but you want to charge a diamond as payment. Your suggestion removes all sense of free here.

    My town is not built with diamonds, nor will it ever. The diamond tools I've used to make my town, I've gotten myself or bought. I don't think many towns are build with diamonds. Granted, there are plenty of diamonds to go around, but there are more uses than just for monetary gains. It's like saying, "Look everyone! I have ExtCommands+, give me all your diamonds!" There's a reason I have the repair ability and that's because I go through tools like there's no tomorrow. I was wasting diamonds like crazy! I was throwing crazy amounts of money out the window.

    If you wanted to get rid of diamonds make them sell-able to the server. Or you can just give them to me. :laugh: :roll:

    BTW, since 1.3, the opportunity costs of diamonds have been thrown out the window now because diamonds are no longer in such a high demand. You want to find a way to make money from diamonds again is to raise their price to the way it was by lowering the demand for emerald. MOJANG is to blame because there are so many easy enchantments to go around. There is hardly a player on these days that doesn't have an enchantment, BUILDERS AND RESIDENTS NOT INCLUDED. I only say this because diamond tools/weapons/armor go with enchantments hand in hand.

    1.3 is the worst thing to happen to multiplayer!
     
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    Here is my thought. You said that E-Repairs are way overpowered. But what you are suggesting is that they get diamonds and money for the service rather than just money. Yes, it might only cost 1-2 diamonds, but there are people out there that will charge more. Also, this does pretty much ruin the "Free E-Repairs for life," and "E-Repairs Just $20!".

    I'm not saying this is a bad suggestion, I'm just saying that in the end, the advantage will go to the people with E-repairs.
     
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    E-Repair in McMMo = Use diamonds / item used to make item that needs repairing according to the health of the item. [also high chance of degrading the enchants] ok so we could just implement the need of using the particular item in repairing a piece of armor / tool so it would not be a waste... Alright so some people have over 1000+ diamonds and what do you even do with them? Sell them? If a lot of diamonds are mined everyday what would happen to the diamond market in the future? It may just drop to $1 a diamond cause everybody will have diamond tools and diamond armor by then as there are toooooooo many diamonds... There should be a cause for it... Maybe implement /sell diamond at like 30 - 50? Or maybe make it so that you could use diamonds / diamond blocks for a use? [well all I know is that in the next update there will be beacons that may need the use of diamonds] so right now one of the only ways To fix the diamond problem is probably implementing this or everyone selling diamonds jack your price up very high [200 - 300] so the market will calm down abit when the market goes back to normal we could make diamonds stay around the 100 - 200 mark so it won't fall. :D
     
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    I certainly think this would be a great thing to implement. People right now are holding on to diamonds, waiting for the price to go up. (My self included :p) Also, the people with e-repairs are getting lots of business because of how it is a one click, done thing. I think that this would change up the way people respond to e repairs, getting the people with it lost more money while also enticing people to go outside their comfort zone more and go mining.


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