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What should we do with fines for improper applications?

  1. Start enforcing fines

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  2. Remove information about fines, and never enforce them

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  1. ChargerBoltz5 Builder
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    Suggestion: One of either two things: (1) Actually start enforcing fines for improper applications, or (2) Remove threads and information that have to do with fining said applications, and never enforce fines.

    Reason: I've never seen a fine enforced for an improper application, and as far as I do, the GA+'s don't fine anymore. It's written all over the wiki, as well as in several threads (like this one: http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/info-fines-fines-for-improper-applications.169/), but these fines are never really enforced. I've seen plenty of applications in which the user did not have sufficient funds, asked to lock their application, etc. which are *technically* fine-able, but, they aren't fined.

    That leaves us with two options: Either actually enforce fines, which would increase the amount of money taken out of the economy, or remove any information about fines in threads and on the wiki, which would be much less confusing. I'd prefer the latter option, since that's pretty much what we do now... all this info is probably just confusing towards new players. However, whether it be option 1 or 2 is up for discussion among you guys.

    Any Other Information: The thread I posted above actually has an error :p There's no fines for EcoMasters and EcoLegends.

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    #1 ChargerBoltz5, Jul 29, 2015

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    option dos +1
     
    #2 Dccciz, Jul 29, 2015

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    i thought that was there for an incentive for users to have the balance and not waste GA's time. could be wrong
     
    #3 iAmVast, Jul 29, 2015

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    Fines have been given out for improper apps before, but the vast majority were doled out by Andrew. Not sure if any of the GA+ still do them. @ChargerBoltz5
     
    #4 williamannin, Jul 29, 2015

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    Figured they must have happened at some point... but it's been forever since a single fine has been enforced, to my knowledge.
     
    #5 ChargerBoltz5, Jul 29, 2015

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    I feel as if fines are still in place to prevent troll applications. Most trolls wouldn't want to pay a fine for trolling.
     
    #6 Monchy93, Jul 30, 2015
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    True... but when's the last time you've seen a troll app fined?

    Usually apps that are trolly/insubstantial funds/whatever are usually just locked and denied. We need to either start enforcing these fines, or just scratch fines entirely.
     
    #7 ChargerBoltz5, Jul 30, 2015

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    I haven't really seen one but that's probably because there are easier ways to troll :p
     
    #8 Monchy93, Jul 30, 2015

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    You're assuming that they weren't fined. You know, those applications could've been just locked and denied, but the fine was given in private.
     
    #9 UnitedStates2, Jul 30, 2015

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    True, and I did think about this before. I'd really need to hear from a GA to find out whether or not these fines are actually happening.
     
    #10 ChargerBoltz5, Jul 30, 2015

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    Option 2. Some residents aren't quite sure what to do as it would be their first time filing an application copying and pasting which seems a little unfair :(
     
    #11 zr2002, Jul 31, 2015

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    Agreed, maybe we should make it so that if you are making your first application, you don't get fined unless it is definitely a troll application. All others get fined if done improperly.
     
    #12 somkar8, Jul 31, 2015

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    I say drop the fines.

    Plus, as far as I know they haven't been enforced for over a year and a half, as myself and two of my buddies have had failed applications and haven't been fined in that timeframe.
     
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    Agreed
    -Chosen the first choice (enforcing fines)
     
    #14 MatthewStevenGo, Aug 3, 2015

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    As someone who was fined for a few incorrect Mayor applications, I feel as though the rules should simply be less strict. If a user messes up on coordinates or something minor, then they should not be fined. If it's a troll application, then they should.
     
    #15 SuburbSomeone, Aug 4, 2015

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    #16 ChargerBoltz5, Aug 9, 2015

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    #17 ChargerBoltz5, Aug 13, 2015

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    #18 ChargerBoltz5, Aug 19, 2015

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    Quite interesting that enforcing fines again seems to be winning with the poll.
     
    #19 Nicit6, Aug 19, 2015

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    As a ga, what's your opinion?
     
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