Suggestion: run the plug (I don't know it off the top of my head) that makes the players hearts visible to other users when the player is hurt.

reason: it would help in SG to show how much damage you need to deal to a user to kill them. It could also help with hacker complaints because the hearts will be show so mods don't have to waste time reviewing complaints on non-hacking users. This will help players learn more about damage and the power their equipment has.

additional remarks: this is a simple add-on I don't see a reason who it would be a negative effect besides lag? This seems to be a regularly used plug so I don't see why the best server shouldn't have it.

Thanks, if there is a problem bugs, lag, ect feel free to point it out.

 

When a player runs you would chase them anyways. This can work backwards as well. A more powerful players can be at low health and bring out kits to give the impression they can take you on. I personally wouldn't want to be ignorant about the other players health. If I was about to kill a powerful player I'd want to know it.

If everyone has an advantage no one does lol

 

"Disadvantaging tactics and skill" because kits promote that very well >.> sure. But that's besides the point, it's more beneficial to see players hearts then not too. Saying it's tactical to "look" like u have full hearts in a game with no changeable facial expressions is pushing it to an extreme. To say pvp is not straight forward is untrue to a certain extent "player vs player" seems straight forward to me. Defeat them any way possible this just adds a little week it's fine if it's not accepted but I just think it would be fun and beneficial.

-Unless it's an actual bug or server problem I don't see how it will be unfair. Saying seeing hearts is unfair because it gives u a tactical disadvantage, but having one sided kits (which I do own) against non-kitters is completely fair is just hypocritical.

Thank you for your response plz, inform me if there are any other down sides besides bluffing

 

This isn't bluffing its running and he got distracted. He didn't think "oh he had no hearts" he thought "oh a super mod ill kill him that would be awesome" that's not tactical that's still just PVP I mean if u saw you in SG id go after u too ^-^ your awesome at SG so its cool to test skills with someone like u.
1. I highly doubt anyone besides the newly joined would think your too weak to fight them
2. you said an arrow true or false did u have a kit? its a yes your tactics are to lure them into a fight for a double kill that's it. you don't need to bluff u have low health for that just more stamina. you do not use bluffing here only evasion and ambush.
3. This would be more tactical if u can see hearts u know who to go after. If this was a real PvP would u go after the buff young swords man with 20 hearts or the old scavenger with a stick who has 3 hearts? this would make SG more like survival keeping your health and stamina up and not bluffing to get away.

 

Thank you for your feedback. But yes your right I don't understand why, those tactics are not bluffing its run and ambush why would someone chase a runner while a real foe is side swiping them? That's just what a PvPer would do no tactics involved.

What's this about detrimental.. because obviously we have similar views on other aspects of this...

 

I agree but that goes for the commenter as well, if the convo above was read fully you would see me and kuke (thanks again for commenting) addressed both the pros and cons that addressed your point about myself, others, and detrimental, economy. So before commenting plz read the conversation thoroughly to avoid miscommunication and suggest doing something before thinking to though yourself.

The "highest bidder" a player who waited patiently and attacked when the player was at a disadvantage. This single player with a diamond sword was a heck of a lot more tactical then any of the players who blindly rushed in to attack a full diamond armor player. This also calls into the light the fact the player who was just standing in the arena with full armor was leaving himself open to attack. Just because u have awesome armor doesn't mean its ok to stay in the middle of a hostile zone without fear.... so strategize much? nope. If your arguing surviving in a hostile environment and gaining an advantage your example had a negative affect to someone who can strategize.

A good strategist waits and bides his time patient, cunning, and composed. A strategist that relies on strength, fairness, and assumptions is weak and inconsistent. Don't give up so easily and assume if a person has max armor they can only be taken down by someone on an equal level, the same goes for a person with max armor I've seen so many players get overwhelmed by numbers because they get too comfortable in armor, kits, and weapons to fight for them.

This is a good way to provide an awareness of real strategies and tactics to be your biggest ally not tricks or buff armor.
-Also helping end disputes about who hit who, who was really outmatched, and how powerful your equipment is first hand.

I hope it doesn't apply in this case and if it does what kind of tips do u have, what do u mean? I'm always willing to learn.

Thank you all for your comments. I still fail to see the impact on strategy and tactics of others as you can see above but I'm always open to friendly banter between server mates.

 

Im interested what do u mean? If this is true I might be willing to change my mind. Was there new problems that arose? complications?

 

Shoot ok I'll do some digging too. To see if this is actually possible. Thank for the additional info.

 

I would love to debt the tactical side of PVP and SG all day because it's how I like to play. But I have discovered with the post from @knears2000 that yes there are slight problems with this mod in past versions that may arise again. This would normally be ok and tested, however I won't support something 100% unless it's not subject to potential disastrous errors.

So I'm going to ask for a lock because I see no further need to discuss this because it could cause mech problems. Thank you all for your comments and thanks knears for bring the bug problems to my attention.

Mods please lock this thread.