Shall pumpkins price go up?

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by 38833, Jan 29, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. RealRunakilli

    RealRunakilli Call me dad
    EcoMaster ⛰️⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Prestige ⭐ III ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    May 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,248
    Trophy Points:
    63,910
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +470
    Most of the calculations of how much you can make an hour, are with fly. I can barely make anything, as I don't have fly.
     
  2. Matteymoo2

    Matteymoo2 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    386
    Trophy Points:
    26,960
    Gender:
    Male
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +49
    ye i remember a while back when they were $1 per pumpkin and even then people didn't farm to much due to getting board of it, i do think that they need raising even if it is just for a month as not enough people have money in the economy and with people deciding to suddenly charge more for E-repairs and other things alike it would be beneficial for not only the people with larger farms but for people with smaller farms, personally don't farm to much because i currently do not posses a large enough farm for it to be profitable but when every thing replenishes i can only make around 2k-5k per harvest these people who are getting like 20k and above are using the fly method which when Andrew comes and looks at what money people are making these people get taken into consideration and not the small time farmers who can barely get by on the small farms that they posses.

    over all i would love to see an increase in price for pumpkins maybe back to the original price when i started of $1 per if it is only applicable for a month so that people can get some money, which if people get enough they may buy more donation features which would benefit the server and may also be paid off to get extra ranks which also are not cheap to achieve.
     
  3. Matteymoo2

    Matteymoo2 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    386
    Trophy Points:
    26,960
    Gender:
    Male
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +49
    Ok so I have been farming for exactly 1 hour and I have got the exact amount that can be earn't under the following criteria:-

    200*200 farm made by AGGERPAKKER
    Eff5 Unb3 Silk1 Diamond axe

    I only stopped to get items repaired and to eat which would be the same for anyone and i came back with an earnings of

    $10293
    which is pretty low compared to what People like kuke seem to think people get
     
  4. jacob03082000

    jacob03082000 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️

    Joined:
    May 31, 2012
    Messages:
    565
    Trophy Points:
    28,040
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +103
    Yes pumpkin farming value per hour went down about 5k an hour needs to go up to 80 cents for sure.
     
  5. jacob03082000

    jacob03082000 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️

    Joined:
    May 31, 2012
    Messages:
    565
    Trophy Points:
    28,040
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +103
  6. RealNick123

    RealNick123 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    240
    Trophy Points:
    26,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +49
    Ok here comes my grand argument Beware its long
     
  7. RealNick123

    RealNick123 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    240
    Trophy Points:
    26,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +49
    Ok, so lets begin with the basics. Pumpkin farming has been a main source of income in ECC pretty much since it started. It was at first $2 a pumpkin which I consider to high. It was then lowered eventually to .75, and now .60.
    Removing a main source of the economy is not going to remove big farms being created ( Seeing of course now there are 200x200 melon farms). We should also consider that it is preventing a lot of money from being flowed into the economy, and that prices of towns are so expensive considering the ways to currently make money.

    I think one of the main argument points is that why should andrew raise it if only people with fly can make money (considering that many people use the CJB mod with fly to farm pumpkins). The reason is because I my self have fly, and can say that even with perfect internet, no lag, that you can use no more then speed 5 for running ( this is because of "phantom blocks"). Now, if we compare the speed of a sprinting person with speed II potions and a speed 5 fly user farming pumpkins they are going to be very similar. That now explains my view on that issue. With that said, Pumpkin farming makes 5-8k per hour. Before you call that statement wrong look at the facts.

    1. Pumpkins are .60
    2. No matter how fast you go, you will have to pick up pumpkins eventually(some times not even in a full stack).
    3. Phantom blocks

    I my self am a pumpkin farmer (I have fly, and an efficiency V, silk touch I, unbreak III diamond axe), and I can assure you that Enchanted-Repair costs greatly reduce profit, and that pumpkins make 5-8k per hour. Any one that says some thing like 15-20k is obviously not updated with current ECC events, and or has not farmed recently.

    I would also like to address that there is a limited amount of crops in minecraft. Therefore, there needs to either be price increases or an easier way to farm melons, or an increase in pumpkins.

    Another point is that to fill up a full inventory of pumpkins it takes 10 minutes. With that said, lets define my use of the term "full inventory" there is 36 slots available in mine craft (with out a mod). I use 2 slots of those 36, one to place my axe, and the other to have dirt to repair mistakes. So this is the math part of a full inventory

    I will do the math of a 35 slot inventory since not every one carries dirt, then a 34 slot.

    35 slots * 64 pumpkins = 2,240 pumpkins
    2,240 pumpkins * $.60 = 1,344
    this is approximately every ten minutes that your Inventory is full.
    Now lets do the 34 slot math

    34 * 64 pumpkins = 2,176 pumpkins
    2,176 * $.60 = 1,305

    now, those are approximate prices for pumpkins every 10 minutes, yet what about every hour (The common unit used in this huge debate). So, this is the math for both amount of slots per hour

    60 minutes in an hour(10 minutes * 6)

    so we just have to multiply each amount of money per 10 minutes by 6

    here is the 35 slot

    1,334 * 6 = $8,064 per hour

    Now here is the 34 slot

    1,305 * 6 = $7,830 per hour

    With those approximate facts stated, and to wrap up this argument.

    I think that pumpkins should be raised to $0.85-$1!!

    Bam! lol im done!
     
    #27 RealNick123, Feb 1, 2013
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2013
  8. welikeike22

    welikeike22 Dean Martin
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Gameplay Architect Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,050
    Trophy Points:
    66,660
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +987
    Stop whining go mining
     
  9. kukelekuuk

    kukelekuuk C͕̹̲̽ͪ͐ͩ̔L̜̦̝͈ͦ̿̾̿ḘA̻̗̤̳̐ͭ̆̿̃̑ͭN̊̓͑̇ͯ
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    May 25, 2011
    Messages:
    10,061
    Trophy Points:
    80,160
    Ratings:
    +6,925
    I don't know how it took you 10 minutes tot get a full inventory, seeing as it took me only 5 minutes.
    which turns your $8,064 into $16,128

    I tested it twice, both times it took me only 4 minutes and 56 seconds and 5 minutes and 13 seconds.


    Your numbers are just very much off.
     
  10. Matteymoo2

    Matteymoo2 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    386
    Trophy Points:
    26,960
    Gender:
    Male
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +49
    Yes but kuke are you using fly or just using the bog standard run the comes with minecraft
     
  11. advocaite

    advocaite Mayor
    Mayor ⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    210
    Trophy Points:
    26,190
    Ratings:
    +24
    prime conditions is basicly this:
    1) A excellent PC(not everyone can afford nor have this)
    2)Optifine( for MC chunk loading optmizations)(not everyone can install mods or want to change there minecraft.
    3)cjb for fly and but mainly for run speed and instant breaking while in fly mode the standard fly takes ages to break blocks(again same as second)
    4) really nice internet connection( less lag on user end)

    this is the basics ive gathered from PRIME CONDITIONS

    in my opinion this is unfair and biased the top 10% at max use or have PRIME CONDITIONS
    which is totally unfair on all the other who for no fault of there own cant get into PRIME CONDITIONS
    its should instead be base on the majority not the minority.
    but this wont happen trust me as others have made extremely clear they can make so so much in prime condition that it would effect the economy to greatly and they are willing to prove this to get it lowered

    thats my opinion on it id love for pumps to be 80 cents - 1 dollar( id really love 2$ but it wont happen lol)
    then again im still dreaming of a older ecc where things were so much better then they are now but due to mojang updates other updates it cant go back to that way and i have to accept that
     
    #31 advocaite, Feb 2, 2013
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2013
  12. mattybillo1

    mattybillo1 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2012
    Messages:
    529
    Trophy Points:
    27,440
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +117
    I used to make 15k an hour using my terrible laptop, so out of prime conditions I could still make 15k an hour so stop complaining. Prices have to be judged on prime conditions or the people with prime conditions make too much money and will begin to ruin the economy. If you don't like how you need fly and a good computer to farm best, then mine or find another way of making money. I struggle to farm because I am using a terrible laptop but I have still made over a million whilst on the server, making money, if anything, is too easy. Ask, inflation is occurring the overall money in the economy increases everyday.
     
  13. advocaite

    advocaite Mayor
    Mayor ⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    210
    Trophy Points:
    26,190
    Ratings:
    +24
    matty you pickaxe(no offence there) im not complaining im explaining why it wont rise my personal opinion I know wont change it, I know prices wont change but i can still post. i have fly cbj and prime conditions i just want boost for personal reason and to make pump a bit more how to say enticing for me i make more money other ways then i do with pumps so it makes no difference too me at all, as i said those with prime conditions will make so so much and will prove it time and time again so it gets lowered.
     
  14. mattybillo1

    mattybillo1 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2012
    Messages:
    529
    Trophy Points:
    27,440
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +117
    You previously, claimed it was unfair and bias to base prices on the prime conditions now you are agreeing? You can post and I can counter that post, you can't complain at people disagreeing with you about something on a suggestion thread, this is what it is for. If you can farm prime conditions you are making 16k an hour, they definitely don't need an increase.
     
  15. advocaite

    advocaite Mayor
    Mayor ⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    210
    Trophy Points:
    26,190
    Ratings:
    +24
    lol i know i don't consider my personal opinion to be taken seriously when i first wrote and explained why it wont changed alot dont understand PRIME CONDITIONS maybe they will read that and understand if they like my opinion they like it, if they dont then they dont its that simple either way we all know the price wont change lol
     
  16. kukelekuuk

    kukelekuuk C͕̹̲̽ͪ͐ͩ̔L̜̦̝͈ͦ̿̾̿ḘA̻̗̤̳̐ͭ̆̿̃̑ͭN̊̓͑̇ͯ
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    May 25, 2011
    Messages:
    10,061
    Trophy Points:
    80,160
    Ratings:
    +6,925
    I'm using fly indeed, fly, extcommands+ and an eff5 axe are the key parts to making money, I have all of those things so I can best calculate how to make money in prime conditions.
    If you want to make more money without fly then you should go wheat, reed or melonfarming, because those don't require fly for excellent profit.

    Pumpkin farming is for those who have the features required to get maximum profit, if you don't have those features then you should get them by, you guessed it, farming more and buying the features from others. (Buying $10 giftcards every time you can afford one is a way of doing so)
     
  17. sleeper59

    sleeper59 Mayor
    Mayor ⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    May 13, 2012
    Messages:
    490
    Trophy Points:
    47,510
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +57
    well the only 1 stack follow you it is relly hard to farm the guys with speed and fly will only make 1 stack a row making it a hard thing to do
     
  18. Matteymoo2

    Matteymoo2 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    386
    Trophy Points:
    26,960
    Gender:
    Male
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +49
    Yes kuke i understand where you are coming from and people should get the features but a lot of people just cannot afford them or may be looking to get a higher rank or pay for other things that they may need or want. I personally think that just going of the minority of what people earn such as you and not the majority of people who don't have things such as fly or extcmds+. these peoples prices are what should be taken into consideration and not just yours.
     
  19. Thecreator767

    Thecreator767 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    3,172
    Trophy Points:
    36,440
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +248
    I can see why andrewkm nerfed it because the extremely rich just get massive profits like 60k per hour, but the common ECC pumpkin farmer like me only manages a meager 8-12k per hour :/ + you have to add in e-repair costs and food...​
    it's quite unfair :/ the rich just keep getting richer because they have all the money they need to afford things like melon swords, i'm not saying that the rich didn't work for their money, because they did, but they had it much easier because they had a jump on everybody when prices were $2 per pumpkin earlier in the spring of 2012​
     
  20. Thecreator767

    Thecreator767 Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    3,172
    Trophy Points:
    36,440
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +248
    Plus some of the rich users have high quality computers managing hundreds of FPS :/
    I get 14 FPS in my town xD
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.