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How could ECC update it's legislation on cactus?

Poll closed Mar 23, 2015.
  1. Make it a feature!

    9 vote(s)
    52.9%
  2. Ban offenders

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  3. Make it worthless to the server

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    35.3%
  4. Generic approval! (post reasons below)

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  5. Generic denial... (post reasons below)

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
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  1. Safiriaxo President
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    Hey guys! After a few rounds of /wild landing about just to find some harder to find dyes, I started asking exactly why cactus placement / overall farming was banned. I heard that it lagged the server, and it was possible to create completely automatic farms. As this is an economy server- the latter especially made sense, and no one wants to play if their framerate is in the tank. Anyways, a few ideas below so as to correcting the issues.

    1. Make cactus placement a standalone feature, or adding it to an already existing one. (One user suggested ExtCreations or the like.)

    2. Make truly automatic (and therefor, lag inducing) cactus farming a bannable offense. (This should be a no-brainer, and is made even easier when combined with #1, as the only players that can place cactus are already on record.)

    3. Make cactus, and cactus green worthless to the server. (So as to limit any desire to set up anything but the smaller, personal farms.)

    4. You tell me! The purpose of this post is to encourage conversation. If you support the concept, bring your ideas to the table in a post below. If you're staunchly against it, give your reasoning too.

    Thanks! Don't forget to vote, and happy ECCing!
     
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    I agree, cactus placement should be back on the table.
    Making it a feature seems the most likely answer to me.
     
  3. Safiriaxo President
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    Thank you for your post, Jack.
    Anyone else?
     
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    As far as I know one of these reasons was a duplication bug which - I assume - is the reason for cactus being worth 0$ as well.
     
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    How was the duplication made? Perhaps it can be avoided. I know they banned sticky pistons for that reason.
     
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    Not sure about that. Cactus was impossible to place and thus the dupe was impossible, so there was no reason for me to focus on it. :D
     
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    I think Maizah suggested removing the "thorns" ability from cactus, which could conceivably remove not only the dupe glitch, but also the ability to auto-farm in the first place! There goes the lag, and the near infinite farming!
     
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    Nice~!
     
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    There are tons of cacti in the Mining world, and cacti is worth $0.00 to the server atm. Also cacti farming doesn't cause lag like everyone thinks it does,** I don't know where that idea came from. Also you cant harvest cacti with water, so using your hand is the best way and the fastest, other than not using auto-farming with fancy other stuff that is really a waste of time to build and setup. So really cacti farming could really be a good source/method of income if the server would allow it. **sources that cant be discussed here.

    Jffsprs
     
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    Thank you, Jeff. :)
     
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    Um, honestly, if Phys banned cacti there is probably a reason she had for it.
     
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    I personally would love to be able to place cactus for decorating purposes in desert towns that I own. I would be fine with it either being a feature, or possibly adding it as another application for staff placement even would allow us to decorate once again with it.
    Long live the cactus!
     
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    IsraelLawson, the disabling of cacti placing was long before Phys. This is not a new thing.
     
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    I cant see this coming back because people will still do it even if you make it a banable offence, and trying to keep on top of the worlds for it would be a nightmare,
    I love cactus and I was around and probably a slight reason behind the demise of cactus, but it really did put a ot of strain on the server, and that was without SG, Lotto and a number of plugins that we have now.
     
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    Perhaps if the price was made $0.00, then it would be a feasible solution. As well, if semi-auto farming is an issue, then we could always re-disable it.

    +1
     
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    Well, the price is already set to $0, which I found out after I posted this. As well as the green dye that is made from it.
     
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    Cacti has been banned before I even joined the server. Only reason I would say yes to anything about cacti is to put it in a pot. It should not grow.
     
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    This could be an alternative if it is possible, though, I would still be happier if I could have cacti planted in my desert towns.
    Better than nothing and great thought.
     
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    If we took the spikes off of the cacti and made it a 'normal block', there shouldn't be a problem with it. No lag. Plugins do amazing things.
     
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    Thanks a lot Mission for your contribution to destroying the cactus :p