Do you know what the problem is with the server as a whole? People lie. People lie a lot. I've had people tell me t
hey could only make 8k an hour farming melons, I've had people tell me you could only farm nwart for 9k an hour, while someone else told me 21k an hour (which is what I tested myself)

I trust my own testing over someone's word because that's how I've been doing it for a long time. This is not the first time people have complained about the prices and it's most certainly not the first time people hate me for it. These "problems" people had ALWAYS magically disappeared a week after. And yes, the changes were drastic, but so where they the last couple of times.
Every time I figure out new techniques, I always share my techniques with others, and not so long after people have changed their farms and/or techniques to follow my technique or a similar technique that allows maximum profit.

As for me doing it all by myself, this is because I've done this many time in the past, and I've only been wrong once, which was with reed farming. (which was corrected by another staffmember shortly after and reeds got lowered)

so you're saying one person who can farm in a way that makes twice as much money as most others** should be completely ignored and prices shouldn't be changed accordingly? That's a silly statement, if one person can make over 30k an hour with wheat, then that one person could WRECK the economy by making insane amounts of money in short amounts of time. That person would literally need half the time to make the same profit, and what if the farming techniques get shared? What if suddenly a small group of people can make 30k an hour? How do you think that would affect the economy? I can tell you how, those people become rich because of a flaw in the prices, while the "ignorant"*** are making like no money at all. Right now that person is just me, but what if it was someone else? What if the user actually started farming like mad? It would be incredibly bad for the economy.

**(not saying everyone else because I'm 100% certain that people knew about the profit and kept quiet about it)

***(people who don't know the right technique)

 

That's a long comment by kuke...

 

As my final thought, I don't even think we should even be able to sell to server, I think it should be all trading and user shops to be a true economy. having the ability to sell to the server is a privilege given to you and there should be no complaints

 

correct in a real economy the average joe farmer would not have the ability to raise to become a mayor, unless he had higher ranked friends, family, or campaigned and recieved the support and monetary support of others to place him there.....and that..would be more real

 

LCP
Are you saying that instead of applying for mayor on ECC you should get elected?

 

in a way ^^^, but not elected other people would donate to you to help you raise the funds to buy the next rank, and I am not really sying do that to this server. i am merely stating that since that option of harder gameplay is out there, we should be grateful for whatever prices they allow us to sell bulk items

 

This is a game. It's meant to be fun, yes, but it's not meant to be easy. ECC is a Hardcore Economy Server. That means prices change. It is all at Andrew's discretion what value to place on items, what is or isn't allowed to be sold to the server.

Too much money in an economy is a bad thing. Very, very bad. There are real places in the world where they bundle and burn local currency because there is so much of it that it's worthless for anything else.

So, every so often a good stock of what can be made by the most efficient means by someone with the skills to know what they are doing and with all the tools available to make sure the job is done right. That maxed out method sets the bar. That sets the highest possible amount you can make. Yes, other methods aren't as efficient, aren't as accessible if you don't have the right tools, farm setup, or donation features. But, as kuke said, it is the few who do have all that who are able to crash the economy by putting too much money in to it.

There is a valid reason for what Andrew has done, and will continue to do. Complaining about the methods that set the bar, or about the person who did the farm testing, or whining that you can't make as much money as before, is nothing but petty greed because it's just that much harder for you to stay on top.

This might seem harsh, but, seriously... get over yourselves.

 

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It does seem harsh...

 

ok that makes sense. i added the suggestion when i was under the impression that your profits were being averagedand not going off of the max. thanks for clearing it up

 

Kuke's prices are based on the most efficient way you can do it. Meaning that is the maximum you can get, even if you have all of the donation features and a farm set up to maximum profit. Obviously you are not going to make that much unless you have everything Kuke has. This is done for balancing purposes. If the average player can make 30k/hour then using Kukes method you could probably double that, which would put too much money into the economy.

 

+100000 this needs to happen

 

This server is an economy server. In any economy there are several driving forces. One is supply and demand. As in any economy, if you have what someone wants and is willing to pay for, then you make a profit. On the other hand if you have something that no one wants, then you make no money. Whose fault is that? If the demand is not there, then change what you produce. Don't expect to be rescued by the server. Learn to adapt. I believe that a really successful player on this server does farming, mining, buying, selling and building. I see people begging all the time. It's almost like going downtown and being panhandled. Why even be here if you don't want to paricipate? Just having people hand you money is not how you learn to play this game.

Anyway, don't expect the server to fix pricing so you can make money. That's not how it works. Figure out how to make money on your own, and you will have much more fun. Learn to produce what sells. See what others are doing, and learn from them.

 

The problem is, the current prices are based off the maximum profit you can get. I understand that the prices need to be lowered because people who have the right tools and donation features can make tons of money. I on the other hand, have quit pumpkin farming because the price only got lower and I wasn't getting a lot of money. I also had to go run and pick up stacks of pumpkins. I'd make about 5K an hour at max.

I now reed farm, because I can make max 5-7K an hour, and it doesn't take tools. However, people with fly could easily make 10-18K an hour because they can easily speed themselves up. I can't. So then prices get lowered, and my profit goes down, only lowering my chances of being able to buy the tools/features needed. $60 isn't a cheap donation, especially if you're like me and you're 13, and have absolutely NO way of making any money, and you were lucky to donate the current money you have donated. Then I get frustrated, and it takes me another extended period of time to rank up. It took me 8 months to get to mayor because prices were getting nerfed and I was feeling discouraged.

 

Matteymoo2, agreed. I will be willing to do some testing, if not on ECC i will be doing it in singleplayer, i will be doing it for 15 minutes :D cause i cant farm 1 hour straight! I will report my findings here tommorow

 

I would suggest you do any farm testing on ECC. Singleplayer chunk radius is different than ECC radius and has no block lag, so growth time and breaking times will be different.