Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

I definitaly agree with this, potions are far overpowered.. Theres really no pvp really anymore, its just people running in, spamming potions and running out. Theres also the fact that they do damage even in non pvp areas as you stated.

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

I agree with this 100%. Potions have basically taken over PvP almost everyone uses them (even me at times) but what choice do I have? PvP just is not the same. PvP should be swords, bows, things like that (We should still keep other splash potions such as weakness and poison as those are tactical potions and Don't kill you within seconds).

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

I agree, because i could tell that the harming potions were getting out of hand with PVP. Its basically an unfair way of getting killed due to the fact that u can spam the potions at someone. I would much like it if these potions would get a removal or disable. Thank you Unknownrider for bringing this up :D

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

I use them myself but i do agree. Its not real pvp with potions.

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

Well umm everyone does have access to get these I dont see why the people complaining cant go buy some ...just a thought

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

No, thats the issue is that people can just go buy them. Therse are the pros and cons as i see it:

Pros:
Creates a market
Is a sort of balancer for pvp, a destroyer of advantages

Cons:
Can be used outside of pvp
Allows people with no armour to go in and win against people spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on equipment
Can be used FROM an invincibility zone thrown into pvp
Makes people afraid to go out for even a second
makes more people angry than it makes people happy, as you can tell by this thread


I vote for their deletion, despite having enough stockpiled ingriedents to make about 196 of them xD

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

As much as I love using harming potions, I hate it when they are used against me as well.
The problem with them doing so much damage is that being fully prepared and ready for battle is now a stupid idea. I've battled a few users who only ever enter the PvP area when nobody is looking and kill people before they even have a chance to close chat, and it's no fun when you lose everything you own for some sneaky surprise attack before you had any chance to react. I love the idea of surprise attacks for a little advantage over the other, but when the surprise attack means an instant loss, it's just no fun.

Harming potions can also do a few cheap things - like for example, even if you are in the same party as someone else to prevent people betraying/scamming you, harming potions can still damage them. As well, harming potions if I'm not mistaken can be used in non PvP areas for damage in a safe place, which you cannot do any other way.

I vote for them being disabled even if I love abusing them, lol.

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I probably have enough to make several thousand of them. lol. I stockpiled so many ingredients...
This is why I always go into the arena with 15 of every single useful kind of potion in the game. No matter how many times I die, I always come back with 15 more... I never run out, it's useless trying to wait for me to. lol.

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

Lol, can i have some? Maybe poison and weakness can stay but instant damage, especially level 2, can be a major pain. I could literally roll in with 5 potions and kill massacre anyone with no enchanted armor. They would be good in PvE but that is not on this server. So, enjoy harming potions while they last. They will not be there for long...

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

Without having read anything but the first post...

Make them available only via a kit for Terminators. Would make up for weapons being taken out. Not sure if Andrew can disable creation or use of them in main world/Aether. Though, seeing them in Mining World would be fun...

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

this is the one reason i do not go to pvp areas much with enchants its to unfair for players that are not going to (or able) to shell out 100ks for armour and weapons

just to give a bigger reason can people with stealth use harming pots ?

 

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Harming pots? Do you mean potions?

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

I'd also like to see these removed, because once I was in an archery tournament in someone's town, and some random builder ran up to me and killed me with splash potions. In a non-PVP zone. While I was in full diamond armor.

 

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^Agrees... Splash dmg potions are op and unfair as everyone above had stated.. I also think they should be removed.

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

The only problem with making this available for Terminators is that everyone would then go for Terminator. In a short time, we'd be right back where we were. The problem, however, would be even worse, because Terminators could own everyone that wasn't one.

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

Lol Splash potions are not the unfair.

I believe they are a great addition to the game and should be left the way they are some random kills you in a non pvp area with potions. Report them easy.

Also for thoose who dont have the hundreds of k's to get there armour these are a great way for them to still get involed in pvp otherwise i find myself have to sitting back because i dont have the money to get involed gear wise so i use potions.

Also potions can backfire on people i have seen many people kill themselves as well as others with them its not liek they dont hurt the player throwing them so it is a double edged sword anyway!!!

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

you cant easily report people for killing in non pvp. you have to screenshot instantly. and get lucky with camera angle.

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

I believe what the potions should stay. UnknownRider is probably just upset that he got killed in PvP. Which i think is great considering he kills EVERYONE! It definitely is a problem that you get killed in wild, altough i've never seen it happen and never heard any complaints. Also, the only person i know whos ever used potions to kill another in pvp was poopybuttfun, and he was definitely in the PvP zone when that happened. Really this thread is about greedy PvP groups and players who cant handle a new angle of play, and therefor want it removed. Not really seeing the point guys :[ (The terminator thing is a good idea because I am one :) but it really doesn't change anything (as was mentioned))

 

Re: Instant Harming Splash Potion Removal/Disable

It's nearly impossible to report somebody for it. That's part of the reason it's so bad. I was killed in a non PvP area while AFK recently by potions. I was in a spot that should otherwise be called completely safe. I had no way of taking screenshots while gone, let alone good ones that show them throwing the potions.

Also, the problem is that you can get into the game without a bunch of k's. People are spending hundreds of thousands of k's just to lose them to an even match that spent probably 2-5k. This is a huge imbalance that completely rules out high level armor and swords which degrades the PvP system as a whole.

Being a double edged sword in that way isn't a good reason to keep them either... It takes just a little practice and you will almost never take damage from them. It's not hard. This is something that can be fixed by the users themselves, making potions still just as bad.

We are all upset when we are killed in PvP (Or non-PvP) by potions, of course, but there are very valid reasons to bring this up anyway, some of which I mentioned above.

People use potions in PvP all the time. I could give you a list of random PvP'ers and 10 of 15 of them will have used potions at least once. I know for a fact that other people use them, I see it all the time.

Greedy PvP players who don't like a new angle of play? Didn't some of us - including myself - specifically say in this thread that we use potions, or could use potions, in PvP all the time? I am a potion master, one of the people on the server with the MOST potions/ingredients, my main method of attack in PvP is potions, and I PvP frequently. I have killed a good 6 or 7 people in diamond armor before I even got killed once using mostly just potions. I love this angle of play when I'm using it, I just find it an unfair means of PvP creating an imbalance, even if I use it myself.
There are also different types of play in PvP - long range, short range, potions for buffs/debuffs, McMMO to add even more depth, etc... I have seen all these as types of play some people use, until harming potions started working. Everyone has been forced to make the switch or fail at PvP alltogether, creating less creativity and choices to make in PvP, strategies, etc. As of right now, PvP is all just "Sneak up on the opponent, spam potions." instead of "Use my flame bow, hit with knockback sword, throw a potion, and finish with my Sharpness sword" which is a lot more complicated and actually causes you to have to think depending on the opponents weapons. If the opponent is a long range type, you won't be able to use that, and have to change. However, harming potions can counter just about anything.

I'm not wanting these removed to prevent getting killed by people who use them. I am wanting them removed because I seriously think that this is ruining PvP... Not to mention the recent occasion where I was killed in a spot that should be completely safe to AFK. AFK'ing on the server is impossible as of now, and that kinda sucks for us who have to at times, or don't want to keep relogging, like when the server is full.