It's just a tempban for an unknown amount of time. That's the true definition of it, right?

 

They're just rare. But like @Vintage_Gamer said, you won't need to worry if you obey the rules.

 

They don't exist...

 

Actually, that's sounds right.

 

Only because phys told him so. The SAs were messaged (at least I was), but we were all busy at the time, so Andrew did it.

Yes, when Andrew was in charge it was fully his decision, sometimes with input from the SA, but after Phys became owner permabans have always been fully discussed between SAs and sometimes GAs.

 

Basically, when we (the SAs) begin to notice a trend of several (generally 10+) bans for severe offenses, or a similar amount of complaints for severe offenses in all at once, we discuss whether we want to risk allowing a player to stay on (or return to) the server at that time, or if we want to flat out deny them for a very long time (The shortest *real* permaban that I can think of was about 6 months, although some players have been "permabanned" for stupid reasons, imo, and have returned sooner). This gives the server a chance to recover from the now permabanned player's actions, and gives us SAs a chance to discuss the player and how we can help them repair what they have done, if possible.

 

They need to, there is another user Pizza520 who has gotten banned twice for hacking. He appealed and then went back in-game and started a huge flame war calling people b*tches and after like 5 mod warnings they banned him again. He also loves to flame and then laugh when he gets people to rage and break a rule. People like this just want to cause havock and shouldn't be allowed on the server, ever.

 

I highly doubt a single moderator can permanently ban a user without being commanded or advised to do so by a higher authority. This has to do with amount of power given, and that this happens once in a blue moon, and I have no doubt at all that fear plays a factor as well.

 

nvm

 

I have edited out your post. Please do not slander users.

 

Wait so @andrewkm isnt on the staff team? So it's pretty much @JamieSinn running the thing?
And with perma bans, I feel that there should be multiple layers of perma bans.

 

No ban is perma... That's what I learned

 

Learnt*
Here we see why soy shouldn't write on the forums at midnight

 

Pretty much ^

All thats different is you have to appeal to the Administration and have to make sure you grovel really hard.

 

Like maybe:

Permaban level 1: Have to appeal
Permaban level 2: Appeal OK, higher staff must decide
Permaban level 3: Higher staff decide
Permaban level 4: highest staff decks
Permaban level 5: 1 month+ with no ban appeal, high staff

Permaban level 6: no appeal, no forum, goodbye

 

What the hell man... waste of a perfectly good necro... there was never really such a thing as a "permaban". The term was a scare tactic to keep people in check. The only real perma bans came directly from Andrew. He ultimately decides either out of annoyance or when he feels like it. He is a god. Although some had tried to appeal and did get denied it was because they waited to long and there was no record of their ban. There have even been members of staff who were once "permabanned" basically if you do something outrageous that impacts the economy your done.. those are the only true permabans I've seen stick... and even a few of those got overturned.

And if I recall correctly.. giant leader was allowed to return... albeit briefly.

 

I am the lead administrator, and handle all operations day to day for the server. Andrew and I work on the backend of managing plugins/updates, and he handles buycraft/billing/paypal.

I handle all perma-appeals, and I'll openly say I deny 90% of them.

For people that I feel have changed, I will give them another chance. If they blow that chance, they're gone for good. GiantLeader is one of those people, as is Reincarnated. Both of them had their chances, and they are no longer welcome in our community.

 

Let's not forget Obble.

 

That explains a lot of the questions I have, thank you very much.
I understand the work load of being owners and lead admin is hard, but I do wonder why ownership of ECC has been passed down. Like if @andrewkm wanted to retire, would you get the server @JamieSinn ?