Denied [Network Wide Suggestion] Stricter Unban Policy

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  1. BobbyBlack

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
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    Short title for your suggestion:
    Stricter Unban Policy
    What are you suggesting:
    I suggest that if someone is supposed to buy an unban and they decide to bypass this with an alt and get banned on the alt, we raise their unban # to the next tier.

    For example: if I am banned and I am required to buy unban #1 but I choose to use an alt account instead rather then buying the unban and am caught and banned for bypassing, I should then have to buy unban #2 instead due to once again being banned.

    Clearly the individual who decides to bypass their mains perma ban instead of paying to come back on, shouldn't walk away with 0 punishment.

    TLDR: raise the unban # to the next tier if someone who is required to buy an unban is caught bypassing their ban.
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    Stricter punishments for those who are being banned for something severe enough to have to purchase an unban.
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    #1 BobbyBlack, Apr 16, 2020
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    +1. Additionally, after getting banned on a 2nd alt, the ban should be a forever ban (non-removable type of permaban, since permaban isn't perma >_>).
     
  3. xboyfernz

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    -1 The person is clearly alting to come on as they can't afford the current price. Increasing it is just going to be a waste of staff time mind you, waste of staff as they'd just carry on.

    If anything put it back to $60 ECC will get way more revenue from donations that way because they'll keep paying it. Not as if the user has that much of an impact on ECC anyway.
     
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    There is no such thing as a permaban on ecc lol, I'm pretty sure no matter how horrible it is (to an extent), you can always beg for forgiveness to andrews email


    +1 to the suggestion overall though
     
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    I would argue that the person is clearly alting to avoid paying the $60 fee. Generally speaking, anyone who does anything stupid enough to get a permaban is fully aware that unbans cost a significant amount of money. If they want to dodge that cost, then make them pay extra for trying to bypass it.

    +1
     
    #5 12345shane, Apr 16, 2020
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    But what if they just carry on alting? I don't see this as a scare tactic at all. If the cost just keeps going up they'll keep trying to dodge it using alts doesn't solve the problem.

    Who in their right mind would pay £194.99 and even if you do manage to find someone who is willing to pay that much on a payment plan (which you probably won't) you'll have to grind for ages. Its possible and you may argue don't get banned then, but I still don't see how this helps the alt problem.
     
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    Lol not my problem why would I cry xD
     
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    And this is why I suggested making it a forever ban (buying unbans wouldn't work) after the 2nd (or maybe 3rd) alt ban.
     
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    But wouldn't they just carry on alting then as there is no possible way to get on the server?
     
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    Sure, but eventually they'll get bored of progressing towards a goal all to get banned and be forced to completely restart. And who knows, maybe the people they're helping will get in trouble sooner or later too!
     
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    I doubt they need help to use an alt to come on ECC lol
     
    #13 xboyfernz, Apr 16, 2020
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    As for the suggestion, +1. It increases Andrew's poker fund and means we're free of certain trolls.
     
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    -1, not strict enough. Just make them buy an unban for each alt they used to bypass, why let them skip?
     
    #17 Nicit6, Apr 17, 2020
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    This requires effort on my part (adding the previous ban packages to the violators to force them to buy the next one via my shop panel. Means I have to login, punch in my /2fa, find the user, figure out which ban they are on, etc.)
    I refuse to allow trolls to waste my time like this. I much rather eat rice with sriracha sauce. The current system is fine.
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    #18 andrewkm, Apr 17, 2020
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