Denied [Network Wide Suggestion] Ease up on the chat restriction

In Game Name:

ElricBellamy​

What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:

Network Wide​

Short title for your suggestion:

Ease up on the chat restriction​

What are you suggesting:

I would like to see the level of restriction on chat reduced, as chat is currently, and always has been heavily restricted to the point where people are not able to talk like a normal human. You currently have to step on your own toes trying to not break chat related rules, and no banter above the basic "Hi" "How's the weather in X country today" is allowed. I understand a lot of people perhaps can't handle certain words, though I don't see the reasoning. While there is no point in choosing to be offended, I can understand regulation of a couple words.​

Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:

I believe that with freed up chat, there would be more conversation and people would all around enjoy ECC more without having to dance around being passive-aggressive or talk complete gibberish just to stay within the bounds of the current rules.​

Other information:

I slightly understand, though do not support the banning of some words, such as "racial slurs", and "strong homosexual slurs". However, words like stupid, retarded, autistic, gay, etc. (Generally things used in normal discourse, which are disallowed should be allowed( Being offended by words is simply a waste of everyone's time, and I am asking for this one simple request. ( I have an autistic step-brother so don't even hit me with that shit. )))​

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I Understand.​

 

I prefer to talk to the community at large, as I said this is something for main chat channels, such as discord, global, etc. I know there are was to talk to individuals normally, that is not what I am I after. I am interested in talking normally to everyone.

 

You are getting caught up in the specifics here, I was giving some basic examples.

Again, I do not wish to be restricted to local or vip, and even then it is still moderated. Personally, 95%+ of the people I know use these terms and others on a daily basis. You are also getting caught up in the details, refer to the above reply. I've been here since one of the first to months of 2012, chat as more or less stayed exactly as it was. There is no such thing as "toxic" chat, getting offended over words is just plain stupid. Relax, take a deep breath and enjoy yourself.

 

Please elaborate on the eased up restrictions, as I am not seeing them. I'm trying to be very "reasonable" here in that I am not requesting the ability to use racial terms or use the f word in regards to the homosexual individuals. The issue which presents itself in regards to how I see it, and at least what would seem to be three others so far is the definition of "toxic" or "inappropriate". As the way I see it, language can in no way be toxic, and only some language is inappropriate when and only when children are actively around. Again, being "reasonable" I am not request the aforementioned words be allowed, or that which I have no interest in chat of an adult nature. It is certainly possible to "let up on" chat restriction entirely, which is a number of steps beyond what I have suggested.

Finally, as I have clearly stated numerous times, but evidently to no avail, local and vip chat are still regulated to a degree and I am not interested in those. I will state once again this suggestion is aimed at discord and global chat. I know that I can already talk to people one on one in a relatively unmoderated fashion, that is as stated in the OP not the intention or purpose of this suggestion.

 

While we agree on inappropriate involving sexual shit, as I previously stated I personally disagree with the rest. However, I wasn't asking for any of that to be added, so that is fine I guess as is. Now for "Toxic" language, it doesn't exist...really. It is too objective and an all around stupid label for butthurt people to use as a censorship tool.

I wasn't speaking about EcoCityCraft when I said 95% of the people I know. However, when I said multiple times that I am not concerned with Discord pms, Skype pms, local chat, pms in-game, etc. This is about discord and global chat on the game. I also already stated that some of this language should not be used around children, congratulations. Just because you don't use some of these terms, which I have stated weren't all of the terms doesn't mean that many others don't use them. Easy to support censorship when it doesn't affect you.

Offensive is highly subjective, nobody has the right to not be offended. In life you will be offended, should you choose to be. Through being allowed to say these phrases, and others when it is called for, not only does the person not get in trouble, but they can enjoy chatting more freely without worrying about it. Censorship isn't cool.

I believe I was here when the "somewhat anything goes" VIP chat was here. If issues are caused by certain individuals, they should be punished, not the community as a whole. I DID provide some examples, however I did not wish to create a large list of specific words so I made a smaller one. I regularly see chat getting restricted for stupid reasons, occasionally arguments break out and they are not all bad, however some should perhaps be directed to pms, especially if children are around.

No, none of my friends are young teenagers. However, some are teenagers. I'm 19, I've got friends from 17 and above, plenty of 20s-30s. Words, per se can't be offensive. They are sounds made, or symbols typed/written. They are a "social construct" lmao. Really though, there is no reason to make a fit over something someone said. Just because you don't use the words doesn't mean many others don't.

I'm not trying to get directed language allowed, as it is nowhere in my suggestion. While there is a time and place, I agree it is not inside ECC itself. One does not have to be "angry" to use any of the language suggested, etc. You assert that it's bad and, essentially makes you stupid to say some of the things and I would disagree. As I said, I am not interested in creating a long list of specific words, I've already given you a small list containing a few words. I am trying to be "reasonable" in not asking for completely unrestricted chat. However, if such a suggestion would arise I would whole-heartedly support it, even if the present constituency prefers censorship.

Nobody so far has given any specific examples of how chat as become less restricted than before, hopefully someone will give me some.

I'm not doing this simply because over the years I have been banned/given warnings for my speech, but because it is incredibly painful in the situation to self-censor, simply to not get in trouble, as eventually with enough warnings/issues it would most likely result in a ban. Some people speak of things I don't like, however you don't see me here asking for them to be censored. All I am asking is to allow moderate language to be used.

This conversation is, quite frankly "stupid". There is never a reason to get offended over language, unless it is in regards to specific examples which are not constitutionally allowed. (Disclaimer: I wholly realize that not everyone is from the United States) Just because you happen to not like it does not mean the other people should not be allowed to say it.

I have already stated many times what the problem is, people are being censored and they don't like it. It takes away from the experience of playing on ECC. The idea of "hatespeech" is laughable, it does not exist. It is a thin guise used to censor people. Good intentions don't always bring about good results. I am here because not only am I not able to speak freely, but I clearly disagree with the rules regarding chat.

 

I'd actually be okay with this, so long as it was actually used as commonly/or close to as commonly as global. However, I don't see that happening. The issue with new channels is that VIP is for the most part a "mature" channel and is for all intensive purposes dead. There is very rarely any conversation there.

Ah, I remember this. However, while I don't have so much anything against words like fuck, bitch, shit, etc. there is not often a time when it comes into play, which is why I didn't list those words. Much more often I'd say "gay", "that's gay", "lol, this is autistic", "damn, that's retarded". It's all the same thing, it's just other words have slightly different meanings to them, making them far more relevent depending on the situation. The intended goal isn't to simply offend someone, it is a "colorful diversity of language". If someone gets offended, that is their choice and sometimes an unintended consequence.

These I'm not potatoing because I see they are more reasonable. I'm not simply potatoing everything I disagree with, though sadly it would have seemed like it as no proper reasoning had been given previously.