"Legal" Scamming = Trolling

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  1. kevin24068

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    Like I said in another thread, builders should not see /ch auc until they find out the command /ch auc and how to use it correctly
     
  2. Intellectualist

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    I also back this idea, I mentioned it in another thread as well.
     
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    Understand that as a builder you try to figure things out on the server. You learn the rules and information as a builder. Even if it is annoying that they seem to do everything wrong, its part of the learning process. It's at the rank of builder where they get warnings and bans, and it will make them hopefully a better player in the future. Not all builders are bad, and if they didn't learn how to understand auction, they never would use it correctly in their time on the server.
     
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    That's why they see someone talking about something called "auction" and they ask what it is. And it gets explained to them (hopefully) by the person they ask.


    Builders are definitely not bad, they are the foundation of the server. But sometimes things are too important to let builders learn in the way of trial/error. Auction is something that needs to be explained, by not trial/error learning
     
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    How is denying them access to the point they don't even know what it is help them understand what it is?
    There could be a /help channels, but really trial and error is the only way to go. We cant explain it to all of the builders.
     
  6. Intellectualist

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    Why can't we explain it to them all?

    Every time they cancel an auction when there's bids, someone explains to them they can't do that. It happens countless times a day, and countless times people explain that can't happen. Before long we have explained it to every builder. And it continues to get explained.

    Everyday I see builders asking the same questions again and again. "How do I..." And every day people answer it.

    I never read any rules (did that at resident app) or made many mistakes as a builder. People explained everything to me. Ask a little question, get a little answer.

    By and by, everyday, the entire server explains or guides or shows builders what to do and what not to do.
     
  7. Thecreator767

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    I agree that this is somewhat bending the rules, but you really do have to look at the wording and check out what you're buying before paying.

    You also have to define "Legal Scamming." I could consider manipulating another user as trolling, but from their point of view, it's just making money.
     
  8. aracelas

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    So is stealing "from their point of view"

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    That is a flawed argument. Just because you don't think there is anything wrong with it, doesn't make it ok to do.

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    Define "wrong"

    My point is that some people may not see it as wrong. I see it as wrong as I said in my post, but it is critical that you read the entire message the seller says. If you're fooled because of the failure to read it, then it is your fault. I've learned my lesson a lot from this............


    FREE MELONSWORD!!!! PM ME! YOU MUST SIGN A CONTRACT

    (size 1 font)

    500k fee

    (didn't happen, but I lost a lot of money because I thought I was buying a pumpkin axe, but I got a pumpkin....)
     
  11. Intellectualist

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    Wrong defined as, "(UsernameHere) doesn't think it should be allowed."
     
  12. aracelas

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    Wrong as in "stated on the wiki" trolling or bending the rules. Which this is both.

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    My point is that they word it so that you believe you're getting a product, but it is actually something else. Therfore, making it legal. Wrong, but still legal (not trolling)
     
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    That seems to me to be well within the definition trolling.

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    Courtesyy of WikiPedia

    It's not disrupting or provoking an emotional response. In a real economy, you'd call them Con-Men. It's not exactly trolling, just incredibly annoying.... :p

     
  16. aracelas

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    /cryinfrustration

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    Well I think it is provoking am emotional response. It's called anger.

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    Selling an egg for 15k is no where near a troll-y thing. Ask about the item before you pay for it. I mean, if you're afraid you're getting scammed, take screen shots and ask about the item.