1. jmichael214 Back Again, Apparently
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    There was a very interesting thread on here that is now locked -- one of the things it talked about was reviving the real estate market. The fun part of this game for me, at least right now, is town-building, and I've noticed something about plot towns/real estate.

    When I started on this server, not all that long ago, I bought plots in a half dozen towns. One in particular (I'm looking at you, @Inamine, @ImaginexMakers) was spectacular, a couple were nice, and the rest seemed to be just land divided up and sold without much planning or forethought. But Watercraft -- there was the type of town I would want to settle down in if I didn't want to build my own town.

    So, when I claimed my first town, I decided to dedicate some time to making the town worth moving to before I sold plots. I laid out the entire town, built walls around it, and included open space, landscaping and water. I built a six-level public farm for new players, a portal to spawn, I offer free E-reps, built a lot of 10x10 plots in addition to bigger ones, and I try to be as welcoming as possible to new players even when they're at the "what do you mean, that's not what trade chat is for?" stage.

    My point is that I opened Lancaster for plot sales two weeks ago. It now has 51 members, eighty percent of them still active in a given 24-hour period, and every one of those plots sold at my full price, which was $1k for 10x10, $2k for 15x15, $4k for 20x20. I don't know how those prices compare to past values, because I'm new. Now that the land is sold out and plots only open up occasionally, they sell at a premium -- because demand is steady, but my supply of land is limited.

    It all comes down to the law of supply and demand. If the supply of what you want to sell (plots!) is huge, and demand is low (fewer players than in the past, at the moment), then you need to change what you're selling (plots in fabulous town, which is only 200x200) to a commodity that is in demand, but which there's only so much of.

    In addition, you help the server's larger issues -- three Builders in Lancaster have become Residents in the last week. They're having fun, and they stick around.

    Just my two cents.
     
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    We need more people. Plots were being sold left and right with 230+ people on. That is the main problem. I am working on my nation and I'm afraid that it will have no use when it's done because the intake of players is supposed to be 5,000 new players a day. But none stay. Why? No clue....but that is the problem that needs to be seen right now. Not dealing with things like mob spawning etc. It's the amount of players. 97 players? No. When I played here last year at this time it was 200+ and summer was 350 or 400+. Sure school and everything but 97 players is not ok.
     
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    When I started ECC my first 10x10 plot was about 300$ (maybe a bit less). The plots in my town are dirt cheap because I don't prebuild houses, I don't even mark plots, I let the new town residents pick a plot and the size of the plot, mark it, pay me, and build whatever they want. I am not a good builder because I don't have the patience for it like I used to. I'm more of a miner/adventurer type, but I am still happy to give new players a safe place to build something and call home (even if its for a little while).
    I think towns like Lancaster (amazing town) are in high demand but are not that many so your price is pretty decent IMO. On the other hand towns like mine that have a few essentials like a public farm, town portal and a lazy mayor are abundant so they are cheap to live in. So I think everything is in order except that its hard for me to see how can you get money just from your town. Even at 2000-2500$ per plot it takes so much time to build that town so it is worth that money. That is the main reason I rather go mining/farming than to build something. All I am saying is that its a lot more time consuming to build a town than to mine at the same time you don't get more money for it. I think the price for real estate should go up but I don't know how can this happen. Maybe if there is a server rule wich sets a minimal price for different plot sizes, but I can't see how can this be enforced.
     
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    I think i bought a 20x20 plot when i was a builder from @pika2121 for 6k.. Pretty sure i got ripped off (it was a long time ago btw)
     
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    As @TheN00BISHPanda said, Ecc is basically dying. When I first got on ecc there were always trade channel adds asking for plots. Now once or twice a week a builder comes onto ecc and asks for a plot, then a mob of town owners pm spam the builder trying to get them to buy their plot. I co-own a 13 town nation which is then00bishpanda's. We will barely sell any plots. This issue and many others need to be sorted. I'll tag the sa's to read this thread and hopefully they think about this. @jakeyray18, @clou44, @Dewsy92. Please sort ecc out. It is dying, you all deny it but you know it is. We all do.

    Rate if you agree with me XD
     
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    Honestly I can't think of a way this can be fixed. New players are just not comming to the server and thats it. Its so bad now that I am considering leaving ECC again, this time for good and start playing on a bigger server.
     
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    Bigger is not always better...
     
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    Yes but in this case it is, especially in a economy server.
     
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    What are you talking about ECC is dying? There are plenty of new players who are sticking around that I am good friends with. It is your part as a mayor+ to keep these players here. Most of them have no idea how the server works. Want to keep players here? Sit at spawn and teach them that there are towns they can stay in. And you need to keep in mind that this part of the year always sees less players because of school. Give me some concrete facts and then maybe I will believe that ECC is dying. And as staff we are doing what we can to keep players around. And as for real estate value I completely agree. If you want to make more money, make your town jaw dropping. But the thing is that on ECC you don't really need a house. People could live off of locked chests in the wild. You need to convince them that they should live in your town. You really need to sell your product. As in convince the builders they need to live in your town.

    Just my opinions.
     
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    ECC isn't dying, it's just in a dip.

    Caused by these two things:

    • People left due to the "AndrewKM drama".
    • Summertime = School.

    We just happened to get hit by both of these at the same time and so a lot of people think that "ECC is dying". We also have to keep in mind that MC sales are/will be slowing down.



    Where'd you get 5,000 new players on ECC a day? Only 6,000 people bought MC in the last 24hrs. Do 5,000 of them get on ECC? https://minecraft.net/stats
     
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    The people who own the server can't simply click their fingers and ask for more players. I'm quite unlucky as I'm mainly on during the afternoon in which my time zone is when all of you are sleeping. Personally, owning a town isn't the most effective way to earn money. I am creating my town, it's been around 3-4 weeks since I started its development. I'm just aiming for a nice community of people to hang around and allow people to stay in a nice and grand environment. I think I've spent over 40k on building material alone so far and there's a lot more to come.

    There was nothing wrong with asking the question too, not all of us are aware of the current variants that cause issues such as this to arise. Although as mentioned previously, summer school for your country has started and that small changes that occurred may have altered some peoples perception on the server.

    If you see a new player on, I think you could approach them and offer to show them around and explain the basics of towns and draw their interest into the server and your town, throwing large numbers at builders is quite off putting and can make them instantly think that they can't achieve such numbers. By doing this your creating a friendly user,encouraging them to stay and even save up/invest for a plot in your town. This is from what I would had like to see when I was a builder, but rather it never happened and feel lucky to still be here today after such a massive absence.

    I'm no 'Dedicated Player', although this is what I have noticed in the past month or two and from my first experience that I hope none else has, because it sucked bad.

    Have a nice day :)
     
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    That's what a SA said in the shoutbox.
     
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    Yeah I gotta say Ecc is dying.. so no new members buy plots, and old members leave
     
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    When I used to play in late 2012, ECC had close to 50 users on peak. Now we're up to around 100 on average on peak daily. AND its the school year. We may be in a bit of a dip but could you not make wild comments like "ECC is dying" without having any proof? If you want to say things like that make sure you can actually back it up. The server is doing great. And seeing as there was just huge drama I would expect it to be worse off than it is. The staff team is doing there best.
     
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    Hello All,

    I have been on this server for a month or so and I can say its great, I tried about 20 other servers before I decided to call this place home, I didn't know the old owner very well, but the current owner is great, she is very active and very great at returing pm's, what more could you ask for in an owner.

    Anyways about realestate, so I looked long and hard to find a town I liked and to be honest there are a lot of ugly unorganized towns out there that I would not be payed to live in, there are a few towns I came across that I liked very much, GoddessLaverna happens to have a nice town with a great layout. It seems like there are quite a few abandoned town out there as well, lots of ugly messy ones, so maybe clearing these away to make room for better towns could be an answer?

    Also the majority of eco leaders tycoons come across as ignorant members in my opinion(from what I have witnessed in game), I have yet to see any of them being friendly or welcoming to new members, I speak from experiencing some of this type of behavior when I was a builder asking questions. This does not speak for every tycoon or eco leader just the ones ive seen on, and no I am not going to disclosing any names.

    My interactions with presidents/mayors have been great in my short time on this server.

    Anyways at the end of the day I see good builders stay and play and I see the annoying immature ones leave, the staff seem to do a great job at running the server keeping it fair and playable.

    I will be playing on this server long term based off the current members and how this server is run, this server is great.

    The real-estate market will get better as more nice towns are built and maintained.

    This is all just my opinion of ECC.
     
  17. THCOOL SolarNation Founder and Ex-smod
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    Im just curious @jmichael214 ..... The thread that you stated as being very interesting but now locked, was that my thread in which I suggested a restart?
     
  18. jmichael214 Back Again, Apparently
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    I think so, TH. It was a thread that started out talking about something else, and sort of segued into talking about real estate prices.

    Also, people who keep saying that ECC is dying -- I started here in the middle of the drama, I guess. Never did understand what it was all about, and I don't care now. Come out to Lancaster, (portal at Towns5, redstone, stone by the aisle) and look at a town that didn't even exist before the drama, full of players who weren't here then (and a few more experienced ones who know a good town when they see it), and then tell me the server is dying. Whoever said it was in a dip is right ... but I strongly suspect that the people who think the world is ending are wrong.