Accepted Free "extra long cooldown" SG kits.

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  1. xX3PICREBELXx

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    Ayy lmao
     
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    I still think something like this would be a good compromise, and a good "freemium" strategy to tempt people to buy them as well
     
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    No -1
     
    #124 RyanBlocks2, Dec 14, 2015
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    Why not?
     
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    1. It wouldnt really solve a problem. People would still have not sg kits most of the time. People would still be unhapy loosing to people with kits when they dont have one. In the end all this would just cause is more people running around with kits.
    2. What kit are we giving them? Hunter so they can complain when they die to cc or buffer so the cc users start complaining about op non kitters with free kits that devalue their purchase.
    3. People with kits would be unhappy and seeing as this doesnt solve a problem I see no reason to make them unhappy.

    I dont like kits but this suggestion solves nothing.
     
  7. kukelekuuk

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    The freemium model is popular, though.

    You get free limited access to what people who pay get. You get a taste of that advantage, but you can't use it all the time. If you like it you buy a kit and suddenly you're a kitter too! I seriously don't see how this would make kitters unhappy, all it does is increase the people who play SG. Which is a good thing.
    And if you don't like it.. well, nothing changed, those people would never keep playing SG anyway. Worst thing that could happen is a new player buys kits and uses them more often.

    So let's recap, scenarios with my suggestion implemented:
    1. Person who uses free version of kits ends up buying a kit. Good.
    2. Person who uses free version of kits doesn't like SG and stops playing SG. Nothing changed.
    This is what I'd call a win-win situation. New players can use kits to not get rekt the first time they play (because getting rekt by pay2win makes people quit), and ECC gets income from people who do buy kits.
    WIN-WIN.
     
    #127 kukelekuuk, Dec 14, 2015
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    I don't see enough players buying kits because of this to make it worth it. It might even enlighten them to the fact that just because they have a kit doesn't mean they are on the same playing field as someone with 3 kits and bffr.
    All I see this suggestion doing is angering those who have purchased kits and dont feel like someone should get their kit without paying for it (despite the fact its on a cooldown) which is why I disagree with it.
     
    #128 RyanBlocks2, Dec 14, 2015
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    I aprove this message +1
     
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    fixed it 4 u

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    #131 oxwood2, Dec 14, 2015
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    I am aware of the meme, I approved this message nonetheless. Was a good use of meme
     
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    +1, I really like this idea although I think this would only be a temporary fix... people would be happy for a while but once they get used to it they would start complaining again a month or so later. It would just go from 'kitters are too OP, they get a bunch of overpowered armor and weapons and we don't' to 'kitters are too OP, we only get to use kits once a day but they get to use kits all the time'.
     
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    a single small change won't be a long term fix, but many small changes over a long period of time is.
     
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    bump, decreasing the gap between kitters and non-kitters should be top priority.
     
    #137 kukelekuuk, May 26, 2016
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    I joined the server in early May, saw people getting money playing SG, played sg for a couple days and get destroyed by kits nonstop. got frustrated because the kits gave a substantial advantage went mining instead. never went back to SG.

    From a newbie perspective, if builders-residents have no chance to win, they wont play. At least this suggestions puts it a step in the right direction.
     
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    To quote Jamie:

    SG is dead. The more time we spend on it the less time we spend on advancing the servers.
    Denied Sorry.
     
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    This suggestion is literally 10 minutes of work. You go into the config, you add the kits with a long cooldown. You add the necessary permissions. You restart the server. 10 minutes. 10 minutes are negligible.
     
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