[Discussion] Rules Update: Automation on Skyblock

i dont think it is possible to enforce the "hold down key while active" part unless people admit to it, rendering this part of the rule pointless in my opinion.
im not sure but there was a way to actually trick MC into thinking you are still holding mouse and have the window focused when you are actually tabbed out. this behaviour of a vanilla minecraft client also isnt covered by this ruleset.

 

I agree exactly with what gluup said above, how can you reasonably enforce it?
Does XP specifically include enchantment XP or other types as well (Skyblock XP, McMMO XP, etc)
Why change a rule and then ask the community what they think of a change? Isn't it counter-intuitive?

I disagree with this inherently; if it can't be enforced unless people tell you, you're only punishing people for actually participating in the community.

 

The problem I see with the term "AFK" is you will have people who are going to try and bypass this by having some sort of third party macro or some way of automation, and will go do something completely different on their computer without paying attention to minecraft. People are going to try and be technical and say "Well I wasn't away from my keyboard at all, so it's legal". They'll try to use it as a loophole. I agree you can't enforce every part of it because we don't know everything at all times, and staff cannot go and check people all the time to make sure they are following the rules. However, I do believe this rule change can help against people trying to find a loophole around the wording of the rule

 

Generally the guideline used is whether or not you can respond to chat. Which imo is a much better actually enforceable guideline

 

Nothing makes sense anymore....

I’m more confused now then ever. I thought this was always the case.. Are we saying we have allowed players to basically cheat at Skyblock?

 

I agree with ajp, hasnt this always been the rule? Also does it not match the rule on main server? So how would there be issues policing it?

 

I agree with cdl who agreed with ajp. I am so

 

This rule was always in place. The edit here is simply a clarification because the wiki did not properly convey this.

 

I think the problem here was people have their own definition of AFK and what it means. It literally means "away from keyboard" and our rules have always been if you can respond in chat, then you are fine. (unless I am remembering something incorrectly)
So is it wrong to be at the computer, responding in chat, but using something to hold down a button although you are obviously right there? Is that technically AFK? If you still respond in chat you are obviously at your keyboard. Perhaps the wiki should have a definition of what the server considers AFK. I think that is what people are thinking.

 

This is what is going to get people. ^^^ "while AFK" they need a clear defined definition of what is AFK and what is not.

 

Well with the changes they've made it doesn't matter since now the same rules apply whether you're AFK or not...

how they're gonna tell if you're automating stuff if you're active in chat is beyond me

 

True.

 

Disagree, if it says "go here for more info for what's allowed and what isn't"... then since it wasn't listed, it's not illegal. I get that you may have meant for it to be against the rules, but as they were written the rules allowed it, making this a rule change.

 

Why don’t we clarify by saying something along the lines of “if the method makes a two-handed job one-handed or a one-handed job no-handed, it’s illegal.”

 

Still confused...

Lol... just keeps getting worse

 

Honestly, I’ve never seen anyone farm melons with that method before. Ok, yes they can assign the “mine” function to a button next to “W” and one-hand it that way, but I believe very few people actually do that. Anyway, traditionally speaking (without any reassigning of keys or floating mice), a two-handed job is usually the ones that require one hand to move and one to click, whereas a one-handed job usually just requires one of those actions. I understand the whole “clicking and moving with the same hand,” but what’s the harm in specifying the job actions to avoid confusion?