[Discussion] 1.9 - End/Aether Changes

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by JamieSinn, Aug 19, 2015.

  1. HelixInsight

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    Perhaps the solution would be to keep aether as is and introduce a new portal by removing the Parkour portal and replacing it with the end? And then create a smaller portal near the SG lobby? I do like the idea that @a18greek18 presented of two ranks but not restrict breaking of blocks; Explorer sounds cool. :)
     
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    Watched the video, very interesting...

    From what I am seeing , the original End (which is not presently accessible in ECC right now) has the Ender Dragon fight. The new End has a portal that opens AFTER defeating the Dragon. This new End has the new blocks, castles, warships, tree thing, etc.

    I think it could be so many possibilities:
    • Old End is PvP and PvE. Dragon spawns (is this adjustable?) every hour. Exp is nerfed, but not eliminated (set up like Nether World)
    • New End is PvE only, no PvP (set up like Mining World)
    • Fly works in neither, Fly+ works in both
    • Access is purchased with an app and ECD
      • Rank A (Pilot?) for New End
      • Rank B (Captain?) for Old and New End

    Making the Dragon Fight also PvP would make it a bit more difficult, sort of like The Walking Dead / 3 way battle. (You KNOW there will be teams to kill the Dragon, now imagine multiple teams that can all kill eachother)

    I think the higher rank should be for both versions, the lower rank for the new one since the new End sounds very similar to the way our Mining is set up.

    I also think that portals from Spawn would be better at keeping access the same as the rest of our worlds (and very similar administration OF that access for Staff, I'm guessing) as opposed to the Vanilla methods of access

    This would boost sales in ECD (Pilot, Captain) and USD (Fly+)
    With the new blocks / plant(s?), there would be an increase in items sales in the Market
    Maybe Ender Dragon Kills medal (like Lotto Medal)?
     
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    What I'd like to see is an occasional "Boss battle" for the (old) end in which an enderdragon is spawned in by Phys and players need to form teams to kill it. (Maybe announce it 5-10 minutes before so players can get their PvP equipment) and then give out a medal/prize to the winner who would also receive the nerfed amount of xp from the dragon (if it is possible to nerf it, else smaller win rewards since you get so much xp). Hourly spawning might be problematic tho - imagine nobody kills the dragon during offpeak. Unless if there is a check for a dragon in the end, it would spawn a new one every hour in addition to the existing one(s). Also, it would probably require additional code to create the spawner timer while a boss fight only needs the /spawnentity permission.
     
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    Bump.
    Need more ideas/feedback
     
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    I like @314's Idea and @GStoner3, except for the hourly ender dragon spawn, seems too op.
     
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    I was thinking that there should be a set time that the End Dragon respawns so that teams can get ready, and also enough times per 24 hours so that no geographic are left out. "every hour" is what I was remembering from when the End was invented *shrugs*

    Heck, make it every 3 or 4 *shrugs* I just have no idea if the respawn time is adjustable
     
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    Make it to every 1 week that the dragon spawns (assuming you can get its egg)
     
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    I like the idea of two different End worlds, and I like the idea of it being like the nether in that regard (PvP, Fly+ works, limited/no mobs). I'd say no to a timed enderdragon fight though, since that seems a little to complicated to set up.

    Saying this, I myself hate PvP, since I'm awful at it. I would, of course, LOVE it if the end wasn't PvP, but I know there's a very slight chance of this happening. I believe that /v should work in the end, since that seems to be the only reason people go to the nether.
     
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    Do not reset aether monthly or all hell will break loose. That place has some old time memories that many people will never learn.
     
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    Please re read the post. We are not resetting aether.
     
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    @brandbauer, the reset is in the part about the end, not the aether - the aether would become free to access and polits/captains would get access to the monthly resetting end.
     
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    - Give aether and regular end to pilot ranks
    - Give the new end to captain ranks

    Make regular end have a random PvE (enderdragon) thing just like the boss fights, with fly disabled for the time and people getting exp based off of damage and crystals destroyed, along with medals for the top 2 damage-dealers.

    The problem with allowing access for everyone to the aether is that all hell would break loose; it is a grief free world, and based off the mining world and the wilds of the main world, there would be a ton of grief reports which would completely destroy the point of having an aether.
     
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    That's easily avoided by only allowing the ability to edit blocks in the aether to pilots.
     
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    I agree with Shane here. Grief in the aether would become a huge problem if everyone had free access. I like nicits idea if that's doable.
     
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    That's my desired result
     
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    Not really. The aether was reset on November 9th 2013 so not really "old time", it's not even 2 years old. And few even use the aether. There's barely a point to keeping it, other than as a museum piece to showcase days gone by.
     
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    Make the current aether a separate server in the hub. Make it "creative", but not actual creative mode.

    To elaborate on the "creative" part. Make it so any block you use costs a certain amount (a global price, so for every single block the same price), say buying a block costs $10. (sell price $10, too. So people don't pointlessly lose money when they buy too many blocks)
    And possibly make it so people can buy islands to be protected (price decided by size of island(s)). Making it a controlled building environment, while also taking money out of the economy.

    No need for rank requirements or anything, because people should only be able to build in regions they're added to.

    It's easy to implement, all that needs to be custom coded is a command for buying the items.

    And for the end just do what's in the main post of this thread.
     
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    If the idea of "All have access, rank for block breaking" goes through, I'd say leave Aether as is. From my own experience, why would I want to build something that very few people can see? The fact that Aether is a rank-only access area makes it not worth building there. Letting everyone have access, but must purchase (buy rank) the ability to break blocks would preserve the existing structure, but increase the interest / visitations.

    I still love the rainbow bridge... ;)

    Actually, if that idea was adopted, I'd probably build there quite a bit

    *drools* no boundary building areas...
     
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