# [CLOSED: Be back soon. ] Moof's Avatar & Art Shop #

Discussion in 'Classifieds & Ads' started by MsMoofin, Dec 7, 2013.

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Opinions on the price? (This will not change the price - I am just curious.)

  1. Far beyond reasonable.

    21.4%
  2. Seems a bit high.

    50.0%
  3. Decent pricing.

    19.0%
  4. Should be higher prices.

    9.5%
  1. AdmiralD

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    First, I think it is awesome that you go to both high school and college. It shows your character.
    Secondly, I was totally impressed with your andrewkm creation - It is truly one of the best I have ever seen.
    Don't worry about what others think of your prices - It is your time and your skills that you are sharing with others. It has to be worth it to you, or you will not want to do this so set your prices to be fair but profitable for you.
    I know you are just starting so keep me in mind in the future when you have a slow time - I am interested when convenient for you.
     
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    I think 57.5k is just a little high, based solely on the fact that my signature was 60k. However, I'm not the one making it, and I have the option to not pay for one. So, this being said, when you have the prices 100% figured out, I will definitely come and talk to you about ordering an avatar. :)
     
  3. MsMoofin

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    Thanks. :) I have been discouraged about the shop with the votes saying the price is too high - but it really is a [mostly] decent price if I want to make it worth my time. I just want to be able to provide art to the people who started asking after I did Andrew's; but I have to make it worthwhile for me, too.


    57.5k for max end of the templates, or for minimum end of the customs? o:

    I have considered the fact that Anny's signatures are 60k; I've did some calculations with the time we each spend on things (moreso her doing signatures and me doing templates, not the time-consuming customs) and it balances out.

    She spends a couple-few hours doing the posing, shading, highlighting, and whole design aspect; just as I'm putting in about the same amount of time doing my sketches, lines, shading, highlighting, and drawing (or, well, designing). In the end we both put about the same amount of effort (when I do templates), and our prices are similar; which is one thing I was trying to stick too, because I know she set a basic art price standard. :)


    I also put the current prices based around income that people make; an average-high of ~19k per hour farming time, and ~19k per hour of my drawing time. I chose average-high, though, because my art takes quite a bit more effort than farming does, and it is a "special" thing for one person; not the same thing for everyone.

    EDIT:

    This is unrelated to pricing:

    I have some extremely rough sketches for two of (maybe four) different poses to be used as templates. Second one looks... weird with really bad anatomy, but I'm going to go batsh*z crazy on it when I start linearting, lol. They'll have female versions, too. (Don't mind the random things like eyelashes, different ears, shirt collars, eyebrows... Those are reminders for me when I make the on/off options for the templates. xP)

    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
    #23 MsMoofin, Dec 9, 2013
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    EDIT: Something came up IRL. Going to push it to Saturday.



    Any last thoughts on pricing?



    There are two options when it comes to the shop and its opening... I didn't gauge my day plans well (for example, I had to go shopping with my mom for a couple hours yesterday, which I didn't know when I made this thread) or account for my HS homework. I can still open Thursday (tomorrow), I think, but I can also open on Saturday. I am not sure which is preferred/works best for people, though.

    1) Open the shop on Thursday (tomorrow) and hopefully have decent templates up. Will only be Andrew's avatar as an example. Anyone who applies and gets a slot will still have to wait, though, but they at least get the knowledge of getting a slot early.
    a) Decent templates
    b) Only one example
    c) Getting a slot "ahead of time"
    d) Applications aren't quite adjusted
    e) Prices not well-discussed and set
    f) Shop opens sooner

    2) Postpone opening the shop until about Saturday so that I can get nice templates done, have at least one example (near finished, at least), and work on my VIP slots. This would mean that when people start applying, their avatars will get done "sooner" to when they applied and there will be more examples to look at.
    a) Nice templates
    b) Multiple examples
    c) Requests finished closer to application time
    d) Applications edited and better customized (such as for non-human art)
    e) Prices (hopefully) agreeable to most
    f) Longer wait time or shop opening

    Shop semi-open - limited slots, only one template available. Grab now, as I don't know when I will open again. I still have to make another template and finish the VIP list.

    Anyone who gets something done this round will greatly help me in figuring out the last bit about prices and help me get my drawing time down (essentially lowering prices). I would appreciate it if you guys (for templates) ask for max edits/customization, as it will greatly help me figure out the process for the future. I may throw in some kind of bonus / extra addition / discount price (note the "may").
     
    #24 MsMoofin, Dec 11, 2013
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    In-Game Name / Username (exactly): iEvolive (who knew?)
    Gender (optional, but highly preferred): Male
    Template or Custom: Custom
    Template (if applicable): N/A
    Funds in balance/available (yes/no question): N/A
    Custom Application

    Unless otherwise stated, images are highly preferred if you want a nice avatar or piece of art. Customs are the avatars in Mojang style, or other art in my own style.

    Use Google Images if you are under 18 and/or do not want to show yourself. If you want to show yourself privately and/or are under 18, please PM me the images, labeled and listed.

    Basic...
    • Mojang style avatar, MoofinK style avatar, or MoofinK style art: MoofinK style art
    • Based on you, a skin, a pet, your character (no game/tv show/movie/etc characters), etc: An epidexipteryx
    • Images (all on application or sent privately):
      [​IMG][​IMG]
    • Pose: As above (one of the three, I don't mind)
    • Eyes (color, details, etc): N/A
    • Hair (style, color, etc; image required): N/A
    • Weight (optional; basic word, "skinny, thin, average, chubby, overweight," etc): N/A

    Clothing...
    • Top (shirts/tanks/so on - style, color, design, etc): N/A
    • Bottoms (shorts/skirts/pants/so on - style, color, design, etc): N/A
    • Footwear (optional; style, color, design, etc): N/A
    • Accessories (optional; purse/weapon/jewelry/belt/hairpin/so on): N/A
    • Other (optional; any other note-worthy "clothing" aspects): N/A

    Background...
    • Transparency (yes/no question): No
    • Rectangle Color (optional): Whatever looks good
    • Rectangle Pattern (optional): Whatever looks good
    • Rectangle Style/Design (optional): Whatever looks good
    • Avatar White Border (yes/no question): Yes

    Other...
    • Notes and information: N/A
     
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    Gender (optional, but highly preferred): Male
    Template or Custom: Custom
    Template (if applicable): N/A
    Funds in balance/available (yes/no question): No

    Custom Application

    Unless otherwise stated, images are highly preferred if you want a nice avatar or piece of art. Customs are the avatars in Mojang style, or other art in my own style.

    Use Google Images if you are under 18 and/or do not want to show yourself.If you want to show yourself privately and/or are under 18, please PM me the images, labeled and listed.

    Basic...

    Mojang style avatar, MoofinK style avatar, or MoofinK style art: Whichever you feel would best suit my idea
    Based on you, a skin, a pet, your character (no game/tv show/movie/etc characters), etc: Based on myself
    Images (all on application or sent privately): Sent in PM


    Pose (detailed description and/or image required; for avatars, use http://www.posemaniacs.com/ - note they are "nude" (muscle, digital 3D) models); Google if you are uncomfortable going there): "Boom Boom Firepower" from Night at The Museum 2 (Facing right though, or his left)
    Eyes (color, details, etc): Brown
    Hair (style, color, etc; image required): Dark brown Fauxhawk: (note: I had the Faux hawk look BEFORE Miley Cyrus, lol)
    Weight (optional; basic word, "skinny, thin, average, chubby, overweight," etc): Muscular: I'm 6' 3", 185 lbs with descent muscle mass. Definitely not skinny, but not chubby either.


    Clothing...

    Top (shirts/tanks/so on - style, color, design, etc): Single color, short sleeve polo, preferably red or blue.
    Bottoms (shorts/skirts/pants/so on - style, color, design, etc): Cargo shorts would be awesome, light khaki
    Footwear (optional; style, color, design, etc): Any ol' tennis/sport shoes with black socks would suit me just fine. I like bright colors as accents on a charcoal gray base. i.e. Neon yellow/green.
    Accessories (optional; purse/weapon/jewelry/belt/hairpin/so on): Sunglasses, preferably Ray Bans
    Other (optional; any other note-worthy "clothing" aspects): Basic shark tooth necklace if possible ^_^


    Background...

    Transparency (yes/no question): No
    Rectangle Color (optional): Charcoal gray or darker
    Rectangle Pattern (optional): N/A
    Rectangle Style/Design (optional): N/A
    Avatar White Border (yes/no question): Yes


    Other...

    Red, Yellow, Orange, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet (a.k.a. ROY G. BIV)

    Notes and information: I'm not sure how you can make me look tall, but as I said I'm 6' 3" 185 lbs. Also, can you make one with Ray Bans, one with regular glasses so I can decide which looks better?

    I have the pictures in an album on ImGur: http://imgur.com/a/zRZtu
     
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    Not sure on the price until I start it, but I'm guessing about $20 in GiftCards (because you mentioned elsewhere you'd be doing donation/USD). If you want to do ECD, probably 115k or so.

    May put you on the VIP list (last slot/least priority in the list, though) so I can do this as an example for non-human and non-Mojang style. I've only done one dinosaur before, and very few animals, so I don't have much for examples right now, lol.

    Accepted - VIP for practice and time estimates on animals/creatures. Last in VIP list, though; may be a while.
     
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    I would like to apply but can't figure out the difference between 'template' and 'custom'. If I want to do myself as shown in my signature, would that be custom or template? Sorry, just a lil confused :/.
     
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    In-Game Name / Username (exactly): zardgyer
    Gender (optional, but highly preferred): Male :p
    Template or Custom: Custom
    Template (if applicable): N/A
    Funds in balance/available (yes/no question): Yes, up to 60k.


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    Unless otherwise stated, images are highly preferred if you want a nice avatar or piece of art. Customs are the avatars in Mojang style, or other art in my own style.

    Use Google Images if you are under 18 and/or do not want to show yourself. If you want to show yourself privately and/or are under 18, please PM me the images, labeled and listed.

    Basic...
    • Mojang style avatar, MoofinK style avatar, or MoofinK style art: MoofinK style art.
    • Based on you, a skin, a pet, your character (no game/tv show/movie/etc characters), etc: Me.
    • Images (all on application or sent privately): Sent privately, under 18.
    • Pose (detailed description and/or image required; for avatars, use http://www.posemaniacs.com/ - note they are "nude" (muscle, digital 3D) models); Google if you are uncomfortable going there): http://www.posemaniacs.com/archives/1483
    • Eyes (color, details, etc): A piercing blue
    • Hair (style, color, etc; image required): Included in previous image.
    • Weight (optional; basic word, "skinny, thin, average, chubby, overweight," etc): Thin.
    Clothing...
    • Top (shirts/tanks/so on - style, color, design, etc): T-shirt, requesting one similar to the one in the picture.
    • Bottoms (shorts/skirts/pants/so on - style, color, design, etc): Pants, dark blue jeans would be fine.
    • Footwear (optional; style, color, design, etc): Tennis shoes, simple red ones.
    • Accessories (optional; purse/weapon/jewelry/belt/hairpin/so on): N/A
    • Other (optional; any other note-worthy "clothing" aspects): Minecraft hat, also in picture.
    Background...
    • Transparency (yes/no question): No
    • Rectangle Color (optional): No
    • Rectangle Pattern (optional): No
    • Rectangle Style/Design (optional): No
    • Avatar White Border (yes/no question): No
    Other...
    • Notes and information: Ask sky if you need any more information :p, and red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo violet.
     
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  10. MsMoofin

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    A template is a premade set of lines, shading, highlights, and one specific pose (there are some images up) with some clothing-relate options (round neck line, v-neck; rounded shoes, square shoes; etc). They can get some minor edits, like a candy cane in the mouth, a necklace, a belt, etc.

    Customs are like what I did for Andrew, and the concept of making a template different from Andrew's. It is a custom pose, custom clothes (such as your character having a hood), larger/more complex items (such as a shovel), option for Mojang style, my style, etc., ability to have an animal/other, and so on. Custom is literally me drawing from scratch and doing something personalized; templates are premade and edited based on application.
     
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    Estimated price is ~$20 in GiftCards or ~$120k; not sure if 60k is your max or just current (let me know). More realistic humans take longer; this price could go down a lot (read below).

    My style for humans can be seen on the links in my second post (unfortunately most are artist nudity from my Human Figure I course last Spring so they are marked as Adult... You'll have to message me on Skype or elsewhere), but I can do a more cartoony and/or chibi style, too; up to you. Realistic-like, cartoony, chibi... Maybe look through my galleries and choose a style I've done that you like?

    Accepted for Custom slot (assuming price is okay with you).

    Maco hasn't finished his application yet, so yours is the only one currently acceptable and falls under the "first-come, first-serve" rule. If you don't accept the price, slot gets handed to Maco once he finishes, or if someone posts an application finished before Maco is done.

    I may make a waitlist for the future - note it won't be guaranteed slots. I will figure that out ASAP.

    Made a waitlist. Info is in a spoiler.
     
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    Unless otherwise stated, images are highly preferred if you want a nice avatar. Use Google Images

    if you are under 18 and/or do not want to show yourself. If you want to show yourself privately and/or are under 18, please PM me the images, labeled and listed.
    Use skype pic.

    Basic...
    • Based on you or your skin (no game/tv show/movie/etc characters):
    • Images (all on application or sent privately): Skype
    • Eye color (optional): Hazel
    • Hair color (required; preferred hexcode(s)): brown
    • Weight (optional; basic word, "skinny, thin, average, chubby, overweight," etc): Well built
    Clothing...
    • Top (long-sleeve, short-sleeve, or custom; color, pattern, design; round, v-neck, or custom): Short blue, like in skype picture.
    • Bottom (pants, shorts, or custom; color, pattern, design): Jeans
    • Footwear (optional; square, round, or cust; color, pattern, details): round, black
    • Accessories (optional; simple custom accessories only): N/a
    • Other (optional):
    Background...
    • Transparency (yes/no question): No
    • Rectangle Color (optional): red
    • Avatar White Border (yes/no question): Yes

    MoofinK I am away on vacation back sunday I will then begin farming for your money.
     
    #32 Pab_Jr, Dec 13, 2013
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    MoofinK I am wondering since I am your sister if I could get a template one for free..? Or as a late Christmas present or something, like you could just put me as a last priority. If not, thats okay. :). Ignore the following if so;

    Basic Information Application

    In-Game Name / Username (exactly): BLTwitch
    Gender (optional, but highly preferred): Female
    Template or Custom: Template
    Template (if applicable): #1
    Funds in balance/available (yes/no question): N/A

    Basic...

    • Based on you or your skin (no game/tv show/movie/etc characters): N/A
    • Images (all on application or sent privately): You can see me in real life. :p If you need pictures let me know.

    • Eye color (optional): Brown
    • Hair color (required; preferred hexcode(s)): #0b0701
    • Weight (optional; basic word, "skinny, thin, average, chubby, overweight," etc): Again you can see me IRL. :p Skinny.

    Clothing...
    • Top (long-sleeve, short-sleeve, or custom; color, pattern, design; round, v-neck, or custom): Short-sleeve #ba0606 red shirt with v-neck.
    • Bottom (pants, shorts, or custom; color, pattern, design): Jeans
    • Footwear (optional; square, round, or cust; color, pattern, details): I have some shows I can show you what I want, I can't explain it well on text.. :p But in basic gray crocs, soo.
    • Accessories (optional; simple custom accessories only): Just various multi-coloured bracelets, doesn't matter too much if you don't want to do it.
    • Other (optional): ROYGBIV

    Background... White is okay.
    • Transparency (yes/no question): No.
    • Rectangle Color (optional): Teal-y blue #07658f
    • Avatar White Border (yes/no question): Yes.
     
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    Mine's been fixed, btw
     
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    Still filling it out

    In-Game Name / Username (exactly): Revanrose6
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    Template or Custom: Custom
    Template (if applicable): N/A
    Funds in balance/available (yes/no question): Yes

    Custom Application
    Unless otherwise stated, images are highly preferred if you want a nice avatar or piece of art. Customs are the avatars in Mojang style, or other art in my own style. Use Google Images if you are under 18 and/or do not want to show yourself. If you want to show yourself privately and/or are under 18, please PM me the images, labeled and listed.
    Basic...
    • Mojang style avatar, MoofinK style avatar, or MoofinK style art: Moofink
    • Based on you, a skin, a pet, your character (no game/tv show/movie/etc characters), etc: Based on my skin from my signature.
    • Images (all on application or sent privately): The skin used in my signature. Picture at end of my post.
    Clothing...
    • Top (shirts/tanks/so on - style, color, design, etc): Shirt with cloak over it. Shirt red. Preferably like a t-shirt.
    • Bottoms (shorts/skirts/pants/so on - style, color, design, etc): Pants, Black
    • Footwear (optional; style, color, design, etc): N/A
    • Accessories (optional; purse/weapon/jewelry/belt/hairpin/so on): Lightsaber, Red. Single or Double, whatever is easier.
    • Other (optional; any other note-worthy "clothing" aspects): Just the cloak., also black.
    Background...
    • Transparency (yes/no question): No
    • Rectangle Color (optional): Grey
    • Rectangle Pattern (optional): N/A
    • Rectangle Style/Design (optional): N/A
    • Avatar White Border (yes/no question): Yes
    Other...
    • Notes and information: Let me know if there is any other info you need.
     
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    Maco and Revan put on waitlist (explained in the spoiler on the first post). Be sure to skim through the rules, too, to find something needed in the applications. :b

    For Maco's, I will likely do a mix between my avatar style and Mojang avatar style; or, well, "cartoon-y" as people often call it. I've got an idea, I just don't know how to word it...

    revanrose6, would you like more cartoon-y (http://www.furaffinity.net/full/11446646/, but not rushed like this), or in realism (www.tinyurl.com/k38e9wu, bad example, but all my other examples cannot be posted on ECC)?

    I can show you my realism/realistic art in PMs or on Skype, if you'd like. They're all in traditional media, but they would be be done in the same style digitally.
     
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    Cartoony :D
     
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    Sounds good to me. Now I must scour the rules to see what I've missed. ^_^
     
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    Found it. Is it ok if the part I missed is the same color as the rest of the app, or absolutely no color at all?
     
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    Same color as the app. EDIT: Well, basically, keep it in format with the app. White or the color of your normal answers. xD
     
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