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  1. The_Jugger Builder
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    Admins / Mods / Andrew,
    Please explain the story with disabling the chickens. Would like to know why they have been removed, if they will be brought back and why arbitrary decisions are made like this.

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    Chicken were disabled and eggs were reduced in price.
    People were spawning extremely large numbers of chickens from and for eggs and making tons of money, this was making too much money and lagging the server at the same time.
    The decision will not be reversed.
     
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    Netsui,
    That is not a reasonable response, there are many things on this server that cause lag and they are not addressed.
     
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    Hundreds of chickens did cause lag, quite a bit of it.
     
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    So your telling me that for the last 5+ months of lag since 1.3 came out the source of lag was chickens, and it too this long for it to be figured out? Is that believable? And as a result, we should see far better performance now that chickens are gone?
     
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    It was the cause of some recent lag and it was allowing users to make too much money at the cost of lagging the server.
     
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    Why are you only focusing on the lag argument, Jugger? Netsui has also said repeatedly that they were allowing people (I assume you were one of them, right?) to make too much money. I have heard rumors that it was several times as much as could be made with farming pumpkins/melons/whatever.

    We want a balanced economy with many possible ways to make money, not one that blows the others out of the water.
     
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    Yes, I remember days when I could be making 15k+ an hour from pumpkin farming, but that started to unbalance the economy, so andy moved the price down, that is the reason we have one of the few stable large economies, with well over a thousand players that have logged in and gotten at least 0.01, that is quite a feat, if you go try another large economy, you will find that it is either impossible, or insanely easy to get money, but here it is not too hard, not too easy, and if there is an easy or exploitable way, it is removed. I myself have crashed my own computer by doing similar things to what was done in some of these chicken farms, with over a thousand chickens in one block floating in water and producing eggs, this caused me to corrupt the world, and to crash MC, which is rare for me, it has only happened 3 times in my owning MC since late 1.7.3. Imagine what this does time 50 on a large machine that has to keep track of over 500 active players, and keep MC as near to 20TPS as it can, we have been extremely close to and at 20TPS a lot lately, not a small feat. 20TPS is the fastest MC can run, and is the average singleplayer speed, most larger servers like ECC get maybe 15TPS.
     
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