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    I hate it, so much. Right before 1.1 came out I tried a server with mcmmo for the first time and people suggested I get spoutcraft which I did. A nice thing to have as I could turn off weather and bedrock fog, halleujah. Only drawback was not being able to see your coordinates but since most places have the command /getpos not a big deal. Sadly spoutcraft doesn't seem to work since patch 1.1 and I have been told its very slow to update. How hard is it to find a server plugin that disables it? Really with it on you lose about 23% of your viable building area on a normal map with a 127 height limit. It seems to fully kick in at 19 and below, but gradually begins I believe around y:30. Plus it might possibly reduce lag to have it. I am not sure if it causes any but you would think so. I actually created a twitter account when it was stealth added around patch 1.7 I believe to message notch and Jeb about it. I have messaged them sporadically asking why it was introduced and if it could be set to optional, sadly neither has ever replied. I don't know anyone beside Jeb that likes it and many have been bummed at losing visibility in underground cities and buildings. I hate mining since it came out and used to love making hidden cities and a nice mining base.
     
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    I suggest getting a normal client with optifine 1.1 and disabling the depth fog (it also increases FPS and many other useful things like disabling swamp colors)
     
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    What do you mean by normal client? Not to be uber-noobin but I haven't done addons and such until couple weeks ago because I have an ancient pc Abe Lincoln built and I am greatful to play the game, didn't want to stress it and kill it by adding on anything so I play it as basic as possible, current addons in use.... 0. No textures, nothin. So far I just cut and paste into the .minecraft folder. I am sure there is a program that will check for updates and install things for me automatically but I haven't found it yet or got it to work properly so its manual for me.
     
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    I'd suggest downloading Optifine. It will make your minecraft run much better, and there is even an option in it to allow you to remove fog at the bottom of the ground!
     
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    Found it, downloaded it, 1.0_HD_A and now when I start mc, its black screen without even getting the mojang logo. Does it work for you guys? You have a link to where you got the version you are using? I gotta delete and reinstall the old minecracky now.
     
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    You may have forgotten to delete the META-INF folder. :b Keeping that in the .jar will make Minecraft boot up as a black screen.
     
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    there is a preview update at the top of the thread make sure to download that one and not 1.0. (because thats for MC1.0)
    also be sure to delete META-INF from your minecraft.jar.
     
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    Deleted the meta-inf like they all tell you to do when installing. Could not find a newer version then 1.0, I don't see the preview update you mention at the top of this thread.
     
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    Optifine updated to 1.1 now so you can get it. Helps a bunch with a 64x64 texture pack